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> No one wants to work for you anymore. You're in quite the bubble. Lots of folks I know would work at Amazon. Friends have joined the computing groups (Lambda
by ctvo 5y ago
> No one wants to work for you anymore.
You're in quite the bubble. Lots of folks I know would work at Amazon. Friends have joined the computing groups (Lambda, ECS, EKS) to work on observability, scale, security. It's important work with broad impact.
- sneak 5y agoSome of that impact is making the CIA more effective at the things the CIA does, as Amazon runs a special datacenter for them on-prem at Langley. It is quite sad how many in our industry are either sufficiently clueless or sufficiently indifferent that they would eagerly go work at the CIA's sysadmins, especially under the guise of "important" or "impact" (quite literally in the case I mentioned).
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- avalys 5y agoI would be proud to go work directly for the CIA, but I’m too selfish to do so, because the pay would be worse than what I’m doing now. Not all Americans loath their country and the institutions that help maintain it - imperfect though they may be.
- aaomidi 5y agoI mean, that's a pretty shitty view considering how many lives the CIA has ruined. How many generations they've burned. How much unnecessary suffering they've caused. But, I mean, if the thought of people suffering brings you calm at night - go for it! You know you're a shitty org when you have a whole wikipedia page dedicated to you being shitty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies
- sneak 5y agoI'm going to assume ignorance here, versus malice.
- astrange 5y agoA lot of people use "CIA" to mean "everything bad about the government". I've seen people claiming the CIA started the Iraq War, which they were actually opposed to and the admin had to ignore them to get it going.
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- refenestrator 5y agoThey could just mean "the CIA's record, specifically". There's plenty there.
- astrange 5y agoClaiming that things are their historical record leads to fighting the last war and not the next one.
- refenestrator 5y agoOh, for christ's sake, it's been like 75 years if you include the OSS. They're the department with an image of white-collar intelligence collection and a huge sideline in dirty fighting to maintain American hegemony. That's who they are, have been and who they will be.
- sneak 5y agoNo, I just mean the people orchestrating extrajudicial assassinations of US citizens (and others) and operating torture prisons.
- misiti3780 5y agoI agree, I know tons of people that work for and would love to work from them, and I do not live in WA.
- treis 5y agoYeah my big takeaway from the recent press is that they didn't even think I was good enough to be a patsy to fire. Definitely an ego hit
- chris11 5y agoHave you applied to Amazon? Talking with recruiters who've left it sounded like Amazon incentives were different than other places. So internal recruiters spend more time contacting people already in their system. Sometimes not even doing a basic fit check.
- treis 5y agoYeah, I made it to the last round but wasn't given an offer.