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Is anyone aware of some event that kicked off this posting? Has a particular game misused the symbol badly? It all makes sense but I am not sure if it has been

Is anyone aware of some event that kicked off this posting? Has a particular game misused the symbol badly? It all makes sense but I am not sure if it has been submitted in response to some recent egregious misuse.

w-ll 5y ago
Im trying to find something as well, closet I've found is https://www.redcross.org/local/puerto-rico.html https://www.redcross.org/local/puerto-rico.html appears to be Fortnight tournament to raise funds for Puerto Rico?
Tomte 5y ago
Many first person shooters and their health power-ups. Also, my googling found this: https://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/01/17/indie-games-developer-breaks-the-geneva-convention-use-red-cross-logo https://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/01/17/indie-games-develope...
- commandlinefan 5y ago
  I can't see how that detracts from the symbol - if anything, it makes it clearer what it represents. If there was a game with Nazis carrying red crosses instead of swastikas or something, this post might make sense, but it just seems unreasonable to me.
  - chrisco255 5y ago
    Especially given that first aid kits are often marked in similar ways.
  - crooked-v 5y ago
    The point is to strictly maintain the symbol as indicating members of the internationally neutral Red Cross and Red Crescent, not just "healing". If a war happens and a bunch of people on either side are using the red cross symbol to indicate medics, then members of the actual Red Cross are at risk of being accidentally targeted along with them.
    - dawnerd 5y ago
      If someone is going to target medics I’m pretty sure their morals are gone to the point where they don’t care if it’s Red Cross or not.
    - Tomte 5y ago
      > If a war happens and a bunch of people on either side are using the red cross symbol to indicate medics They do, medical branches of the military are allowed to use the symbols.
      - mcguire 5y ago
        Right. And you're not supposed to shoot at them.
malfist 5y ago
Not recent, but I believe subnatica had their submission to Japan rejected due to use a red cross on their med kits.
81451710235 5y ago
They do this fairly often. archive.is dates this page to at least 2018
ksaj 5y ago
I wondered exactly this, because to this day I've only ever seen the red cross used for its intended meaning. It is absolutely recognizable for this purpose, and in those use cases. There were cases of misuse, but they were some time ago and already have been dealt with. I used to have a toy ambulance that had the red cross logo on it. They probably should post a policy on what they consider to be acceptable play, and what is not. This would also impact a lot of movies and cartoons.
- pugworthy 5y ago
  I think if used for intended meaning in a shooting game, any player wearing or showing the Red Cross would be a third team who's role is to heal everyone. Which would actually be an interesting game idea...
forkLding 5y ago
Might not be a game but be from this: https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2008/05/article_0005.html https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2008/05/article_0005.h... and then seeing the widespread usage of red cross symbolism in video games
pugworthy 5y ago
This is not a new issue for them. I recall dealing with it when I was working on a WW2 combat game 15 years ago.
mcguire 5y ago
No idea if this is related to the post, but someone pointed out... https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Medic https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Medic

w-ll 5y ago

Im trying to find something as well, closet I've found is https://www.redcross.org/local/puerto-rico.html https://www.redcross.org/local/puerto-rico.html appears to be Fortnight tournament to raise funds for Puerto Rico?

Tomte 5y ago

Many first person shooters and their health power-ups. Also, my googling found this: https://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/01/17/indie-games-developer-breaks-the-geneva-convention-use-red-cross-logo https://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/01/17/indie-games-develope...

commandlinefan 5y ago
I can't see how that detracts from the symbol - if anything, it makes it clearer what it represents. If there was a game with Nazis carrying red crosses instead of swastikas or something, this post might make sense, but it just seems unreasonable to me.
- chrisco255 5y ago
  Especially given that first aid kits are often marked in similar ways.
- crooked-v 5y ago
  The point is to strictly maintain the symbol as indicating members of the internationally neutral Red Cross and Red Crescent, not just "healing". If a war happens and a bunch of people on either side are using the red cross symbol to indicate medics, then members of the actual Red Cross are at risk of being accidentally targeted along with them.
  - dawnerd 5y ago
    If someone is going to target medics I’m pretty sure their morals are gone to the point where they don’t care if it’s Red Cross or not.
  - Tomte 5y ago
    > If a war happens and a bunch of people on either side are using the red cross symbol to indicate medics They do, medical branches of the military are allowed to use the symbols.
    - mcguire 5y ago
      Right. And you're not supposed to shoot at them.

malfist 5y ago

Not recent, but I believe subnatica had their submission to Japan rejected due to use a red cross on their med kits.

81451710235 5y ago

They do this fairly often. archive.is dates this page to at least 2018

ksaj 5y ago

I wondered exactly this, because to this day I've only ever seen the red cross used for its intended meaning. It is absolutely recognizable for this purpose, and in those use cases. There were cases of misuse, but they were some time ago and already have been dealt with. I used to have a toy ambulance that had the red cross logo on it. They probably should post a policy on what they consider to be acceptable play, and what is not. This would also impact a lot of movies and cartoons.

pugworthy 5y ago
I think if used for intended meaning in a shooting game, any player wearing or showing the Red Cross would be a third team who's role is to heal everyone. Which would actually be an interesting game idea...

forkLding 5y ago

Might not be a game but be from this: https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2008/05/article_0005.html https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2008/05/article_0005.h... and then seeing the widespread usage of red cross symbolism in video games

pugworthy 5y ago

This is not a new issue for them. I recall dealing with it when I was working on a WW2 combat game 15 years ago.

mcguire 5y ago

No idea if this is related to the post, but someone pointed out... https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Medic https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Medic