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https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1413306651625594894?s=20 https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1413306651625594894... "The CDC and FDA have issued

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1413306651625594894?s=20 https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1413306651625594894... "The CDC and FDA have issued an unusual evening joint statement, which pushes back on Pfizer's announcement that it will seek approval for a third shot (second booster). "Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time," The news will continue to post stories and think pieces about new covid variants for several years knowing they'll get clicks. This information whiplash from one set of experts and then another set of experts disagreeing with the first set, 24 hours later in the news cycle is gonna happen more and more. Hopefully those that are vaccinated can move on with their lives, without boosters and without having to vaccinate their young children.

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hammock 5y ago
>Hopefully those that are vaccinated And the naturally immune/recovered - CDC estimates over 113 million in the US.
- quantumwoke 5y ago
  I thought the CDC advice was that those who are "naturally immune" should get vaccinated anyway for variant protection? That would seem to fit with this announcement at least.
  - hammock 5y ago
    Are you suggesting we can't move on unless the CDC says so?
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- renaudg 5y ago
  That's not equivalent unfortunately. Vaccine-induced immunity has been shown to offer much broader protection than natural post-infection immunity, and reinfections are not rare with Delta. Here's a recent study : https://twitter.com/OYCar/status/1412656966481039367?s=20 https://twitter.com/OYCar/status/1412656966481039367?s=20
  - rajin444 5y ago
    It looks like that study was done on < 300 people. Is that strong evidence?
  - hammock 5y ago
    That study, done in a lab and not in the real world, contradicts the latest real-world science on this issue. The two relevant studies: 1) A report in Nature that the natural immunity produced in people who have already had covid may last a lifetime. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9 2) The Cleveland Clinic--consistently regarded as one of the top hospital systems in the United States and in the world--recently shared a study of 52,238 patients showing zero incremental benefit from the jab to the previously infected, recommending that "people who’ve had COVID-19 don’t need to get vaccinated." https://www.healthline.com/health-news/new-study-determines-people-whove-had-covid-19-dont-need-to-get-vaccinated https://www.healthline.com/health-news/new-study-determines-...
war1025 5y ago
> Hopefully those that are vaccinated can move on with their lives At least here in the Midwest, life is back to normal for all but the very most cautious. Even the people who were most glued to their televisions during the pandemic can't be made to care about "variants". I really don't think it would be feasible at this point for the government to force restrictions back on people. I think the majority wouldn't comply.

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hammock 5y ago

>Hopefully those that are vaccinated And the naturally immune/recovered - CDC estimates over 113 million in the US.

quantumwoke 5y ago
I thought the CDC advice was that those who are "naturally immune" should get vaccinated anyway for variant protection? That would seem to fit with this announcement at least.
- hammock 5y ago
  Are you suggesting we can't move on unless the CDC says so?
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renaudg 5y ago
That's not equivalent unfortunately. Vaccine-induced immunity has been shown to offer much broader protection than natural post-infection immunity, and reinfections are not rare with Delta. Here's a recent study : https://twitter.com/OYCar/status/1412656966481039367?s=20 https://twitter.com/OYCar/status/1412656966481039367?s=20
- rajin444 5y ago
  It looks like that study was done on < 300 people. Is that strong evidence?
- hammock 5y ago
  That study, done in a lab and not in the real world, contradicts the latest real-world science on this issue. The two relevant studies: 1) A report in Nature that the natural immunity produced in people who have already had covid may last a lifetime. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9 2) The Cleveland Clinic--consistently regarded as one of the top hospital systems in the United States and in the world--recently shared a study of 52,238 patients showing zero incremental benefit from the jab to the previously infected, recommending that "people who’ve had COVID-19 don’t need to get vaccinated." https://www.healthline.com/health-news/new-study-determines-people-whove-had-covid-19-dont-need-to-get-vaccinated https://www.healthline.com/health-news/new-study-determines-...

war1025 5y ago

> Hopefully those that are vaccinated can move on with their lives At least here in the Midwest, life is back to normal for all but the very most cautious. Even the people who were most glued to their televisions during the pandemic can't be made to care about "variants". I really don't think it would be feasible at this point for the government to force restrictions back on people. I think the majority wouldn't comply.