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>All work on my Personal Game will be performed outside of my regular working hours. What? Why exactly is Amazon involved at all then?

by swiley 5y ago

denimnerd42 5y ago
Do many aws/amazon engineers even have regular working hours? I'd imagine there is no 9-12,1-6 at Amazon.
- Guest42 5y ago
  Perhaps this is what Bezos meant when he said that rather than talking about work-life balance, he’d rather think of things as a circle.
  - mataug 5y ago
    Bezos is quoted frequently using the term "Work Life harmony"[1]. Having previously worked at Amazon, I learned that "harmony" meant, if I'm not working, I should be preparing my mind and body to work better the next day. Bezos also believes that workers are inherently lazy[2]. [1]https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/what-jeff-bezos-does-instead-of-work-life-balance.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/what-jeff-bezos-does-instead... [2]https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-polices-based-jeff-bezos-belief-all-workers-are-lazy-2021-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-polices-based-jeff-be...
- mataug 5y ago
  A lucky few do have regular hours, but that could change anytime with a change in manager, skip-level, or even few senior engineers.
- johnqpub 5y ago
  I do. I'm a 2-year-in-a-row top tier rated senior SDE. I work 8:30 to 5:30 every day. If I work later it's because I'm working on something interesting to me personally and it's my choice. I'll admit I have good management. That makes a huge difference. I also give reasonable estimates for project timelines up front.
  - denimnerd42 5y ago
    do you choose that time by choice? or if you didn't have a meeting at 8:30 or until 5:30 would you have to really work that hour? That's more what I mean. Not that the hours can't be reasonable. On my team sometimes I work till 4, others I work till 5 kind of thing.
  - NBJack 5y ago
    Tell that to the non-senior SDEs whom either (1) don't have the clout with management yet, (2) don't know any better, or (3) have drunk the the lines of "work hard, have fun, make history" a little too deeply. Enjoy your seniority; you're harder to replace. But don't apply that experience liberally to the rest of Amazon SDEs.

>All work on my Personal Game will be performed outside of my regular working hours. What? Why exactly is Amazon involved at all then?

by swiley 5y ago

>All work on my Personal Game will be performed outside of my regular working hours. What? Why exactly is Amazon involved at all then?

denimnerd42 5y ago

Do many aws/amazon engineers even have regular working hours? I'd imagine there is no 9-12,1-6 at Amazon.

Guest42 5y ago
Perhaps this is what Bezos meant when he said that rather than talking about work-life balance, he’d rather think of things as a circle.
- mataug 5y ago
  Bezos is quoted frequently using the term "Work Life harmony"[1]. Having previously worked at Amazon, I learned that "harmony" meant, if I'm not working, I should be preparing my mind and body to work better the next day. Bezos also believes that workers are inherently lazy[2]. [1]https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/what-jeff-bezos-does-instead-of-work-life-balance.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/what-jeff-bezos-does-instead... [2]https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-polices-based-jeff-bezos-belief-all-workers-are-lazy-2021-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-polices-based-jeff-be...
mataug 5y ago
A lucky few do have regular hours, but that could change anytime with a change in manager, skip-level, or even few senior engineers.
johnqpub 5y ago
I do. I'm a 2-year-in-a-row top tier rated senior SDE. I work 8:30 to 5:30 every day. If I work later it's because I'm working on something interesting to me personally and it's my choice. I'll admit I have good management. That makes a huge difference. I also give reasonable estimates for project timelines up front.
- denimnerd42 5y ago
  do you choose that time by choice? or if you didn't have a meeting at 8:30 or until 5:30 would you have to really work that hour? That's more what I mean. Not that the hours can't be reasonable. On my team sometimes I work till 4, others I work till 5 kind of thing.
- NBJack 5y ago
  Tell that to the non-senior SDEs whom either (1) don't have the clout with management yet, (2) don't know any better, or (3) have drunk the the lines of "work hard, have fun, make history" a little too deeply. Enjoy your seniority; you're harder to replace. But don't apply that experience liberally to the rest of Amazon SDEs.