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Damn straight. Supporting OSX look or iPhone look only helps Apple sell more stuff; it doesn't directly help the internet fully realize itself, and a fully real

by jksmith 18y ago

Damn straight. Supporting OSX look or iPhone look only helps Apple sell more stuff; it doesn't directly help the internet fully realize itself, and a fully realized internet must be the future of computing.

whalesalad 18y ago
^^ I don't understand why people say things like this. Clearly the interfaces that Apple has chosen for its products are succeeding. Succeeding in that they help Apple sell more things, and consequently succeeding because they are usable and people enjoy using them. Eventually these interfaces will become standard. I also dislike it when people whine about Vista looking like OS X, and all the mac people complain about XYZ looking like OS X. I can tell when someone is an Apple fanboy, and I can also tell (you sir) when someone doesn't like Apple at all and probably develops .NET apps in Visual Studio. Such radical users! Why can't we come together for the common good. If you don't like the interface, what might you recommend as an alternative? People are dumping Vista left and right for either XP or moving to OS X (as their reports will show, Apple is growing momentum! we all know it!) If you have an alternative then let's hear it but if all you are going to do is whine about it then it's not helping! Also, as a final note, Sproutcore isn't about the interface elements. You can change those with the swap of a PNG and a few lines of CSS. It's about the evolution of user interaction on the internet. Bringing the desktop-web void closer together.
- dcurtis 18y ago
  A lot of the evolution of user interaction on the internet is directly related to the interface elements that drive those interactions. The current web UI toolkit consisting of, for example, submit buttons, links with underlines, and navigation designed for page reloads, doesn't exactly complement the new designed-for-instant-interactivity backend in things like SproutCore.

by jksmith 18y ago

whalesalad 18y ago

^^ I don't understand why people say things like this. Clearly the interfaces that Apple has chosen for its products are succeeding. Succeeding in that they help Apple sell more things, and consequently succeeding because they are usable and people enjoy using them. Eventually these interfaces will become standard. I also dislike it when people whine about Vista looking like OS X, and all the mac people complain about XYZ looking like OS X. I can tell when someone is an Apple fanboy, and I can also tell (you sir) when someone doesn't like Apple at all and probably develops .NET apps in Visual Studio. Such radical users! Why can't we come together for the common good. If you don't like the interface, what might you recommend as an alternative? People are dumping Vista left and right for either XP or moving to OS X (as their reports will show, Apple is growing momentum! we all know it!) If you have an alternative then let's hear it but if all you are going to do is whine about it then it's not helping! Also, as a final note, Sproutcore isn't about the interface elements. You can change those with the swap of a PNG and a few lines of CSS. It's about the evolution of user interaction on the internet. Bringing the desktop-web void closer together.

dcurtis 18y ago
A lot of the evolution of user interaction on the internet is directly related to the interface elements that drive those interactions. The current web UI toolkit consisting of, for example, submit buttons, links with underlines, and navigation designed for page reloads, doesn't exactly complement the new designed-for-instant-interactivity backend in things like SproutCore.