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If true it makes their smart watch joint venture interesting. Did google force samsung to stop using tizen on their smart watches? Pay them a large sum of money

If true it makes their smart watch joint venture interesting. Did google force samsung to stop using tizen on their smart watches? Pay them a large sum of money to get wearOS back in the game?

ocdtrekkie 5y ago
Most of Samsung's seemingly odd back and forth antics can be explained by realizing that: Samsung is the manufacturer most capable of forking Android and telling Google to shove it, and that most of their product development has been making sure that it's possible to do so (Galaxy Store, Bixby, Tizen watches, etc.) And that Google, knowing Samsung has the brand loyalty and wide userbase to devastate Android's market share, is in a constant effort to pay Samsung to stop pushing them away. So they built competitors to Google's product library, and then Google pays them to push a Google product anyways, and then they build a competitor to the next Google product, and wait for the check from Google for them to shelve it... Through this back and forth, Samsung both ends up with a competitive ecosystem to Google ready-to-go if they need it, and an extremely lucrative pile of concessions from Google that Google would've preferred to not have to give them.
- bythckr 5y ago
  I feel that the software products & services that Samsung builds is half-baked. It might be a pressure tactic to ensure Google keeps paying. Also, I am wonder what happened of Samsung & Microsoft plans of Samsung shelving its app & services for Microsoft. I feel that was the "real motivation" for Google to start paying. Google needs to be challenged for an improvement in Android space. They should stop rushing in half baked stuff and instead work on releasing reliable & well tested products. As a person that actively used android, iOS, Linux, Windows & Mac, Apple's stuffs just work and it's high time the competition catches up. As for Android, we need to have flavour / custom ROMs that is 100% degoogled and with proper alternatives. Ubuntu, Microsoft & LinageOS all need to up their game and get more people involved.
  - selestify 5y ago
    As another person who's used all of those OS's as well, Apple's stuff sadly does not "just work" anymore for me, but it does still work better than other ones
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    apple has an order of magnitude fewer device models to support. I'm not sure android will ever have similar performance and feature support as apple - the business models are so totally different.
  - _coveredInBees 5y ago
    Samsung gets a bad rap when it comes to software imo. There used to be a time when it was perhaps well deserved but that was a LONG time ago. Samsung's browser is hand's down the best Android browser I have used in years and continue to use. It has fantastic built-in dark mode support, ad blocking and is amazingly snappy and responsive. Far superior to Chrome and Firefox as well as anything else I've tried. I've used my S9+ with their flavor of Android and other integrations for many years now and my phone still feels just as snappy and great as the day I bought it.

If true it makes their smart watch joint venture interesting. Did google force samsung to stop using tizen on their smart watches? Pay them a large sum of money to get wearOS back in the game?

ocdtrekkie 5y ago

Most of Samsung's seemingly odd back and forth antics can be explained by realizing that: Samsung is the manufacturer most capable of forking Android and telling Google to shove it, and that most of their product development has been making sure that it's possible to do so (Galaxy Store, Bixby, Tizen watches, etc.) And that Google, knowing Samsung has the brand loyalty and wide userbase to devastate Android's market share, is in a constant effort to pay Samsung to stop pushing them away. So they built competitors to Google's product library, and then Google pays them to push a Google product anyways, and then they build a competitor to the next Google product, and wait for the check from Google for them to shelve it... Through this back and forth, Samsung both ends up with a competitive ecosystem to Google ready-to-go if they need it, and an extremely lucrative pile of concessions from Google that Google would've preferred to not have to give them.

bythckr 5y ago
I feel that the software products & services that Samsung builds is half-baked. It might be a pressure tactic to ensure Google keeps paying. Also, I am wonder what happened of Samsung & Microsoft plans of Samsung shelving its app & services for Microsoft. I feel that was the "real motivation" for Google to start paying. Google needs to be challenged for an improvement in Android space. They should stop rushing in half baked stuff and instead work on releasing reliable & well tested products. As a person that actively used android, iOS, Linux, Windows & Mac, Apple's stuffs just work and it's high time the competition catches up. As for Android, we need to have flavour / custom ROMs that is 100% degoogled and with proper alternatives. Ubuntu, Microsoft & LinageOS all need to up their game and get more people involved.
- selestify 5y ago
  As another person who's used all of those OS's as well, Apple's stuff sadly does not "just work" anymore for me, but it does still work better than other ones
- LegitShady 5y ago
  apple has an order of magnitude fewer device models to support. I'm not sure android will ever have similar performance and feature support as apple - the business models are so totally different.
- _coveredInBees 5y ago
  Samsung gets a bad rap when it comes to software imo. There used to be a time when it was perhaps well deserved but that was a LONG time ago. Samsung's browser is hand's down the best Android browser I have used in years and continue to use. It has fantastic built-in dark mode support, ad blocking and is amazingly snappy and responsive. Far superior to Chrome and Firefox as well as anything else I've tried. I've used my S9+ with their flavor of Android and other integrations for many years now and my phone still feels just as snappy and great as the day I bought it.