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“Having to update some configurations” is an interesting way to put it. The same could be said for DST and timezones in general. I guess the nuance I was tryin
by social_quotient 5y ago
“Having to update some configurations” is an interesting way to put it. The same could be said for DST and timezones in general.
I guess the nuance I was trying to convey here is that it would be incredibly disruptive to the current rituals of working. Starting at the high level 20% less production, less salary, then to the annoying concepts like calendaring meetings and travel. Then to the myopic things like stupid excel formulas.
But to your point, would I let an excel formula stop a cultural change.. obviously no and thanks for nudging me to clarify that. Change is good, healthy and expected. Questioning the status quo is always needed.
I just don’t like this one, I think it’s politically motivated to further get people to be more dependent on the biz institutions/gov and further contributes to a looming debt crisis. It’s like voting for class president because they will put in a soda fountain and free candy.
I think this plays out incredibly different for different classes of workers and occupations. And for those that need the hours I don’t see how this ends well. At the time based consulting level, this also includes me.
Lastly it’s odd to me for so many people that we want to work less but expect to consume the same or more. We expect stores to be open 7 days a week with longer hours of availability, we expect same day shipping on unlimited products yet we don’t want to work 5 days. I just have a tough time seeing how all boats rise. Part of this seems to also be that some people can afford to work just 4 days but need society to say “it’s okay” for them to do it. Aka 4 day work weeks aren’t just for the 1%.
Am I game for trying it? Sure, if it pushes humanity forward in our collective and individual endeavors, let’s give it a go.
- gugagore 5y ago> we want to work less but expect to consume the same or more I think it feels clear to many people that our consumption habits are unsustainable, regardless of how much we work. And I agree, "consumption" is where the rubber meets the road. Do we want to live in a place where we are simultaneously taking steps to mitigate climate change, reform labor, while also accepting that we must reduce air travel, next-day shipping, eating foods out of season, being able to get a bag of chips any time of the day, any day of the week, etc.? In many cities of the world, it's not uncommon for e.g. the grocery store to be closed on Sunday. For sure, it's less convenient. But I think it's pretty reasonable to plan around it. I'm interested to know 1. what you mean by "looming debt crisis", 2. who stands to gain from worsening the crises. > It’s like voting for class president because they will put in a soda fountain and free candy. I appreciate that you are using soda and candy as a metaphor for frivolous changes. On the other hand, I can also see it as a metaphor for "improving material conditions". People do care about how much time they have left outside of work and I think that that is appropriate and expected. That is a concrete, material aspect of life that people understand. National debt is not. To add an additional nuance, I think promising a 4 day work week [and to hell with productivity] is crucially different from promising "clean coal" jobs [and to hell with the climate].
- social_quotient 5y agoThx for your thoughts!