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This is such a BS lawsuit. It would be so much better for consumers if they had instead looked into googles firebase and play services shenanigans.

by zibzab 5y ago

paulgb 5y ago
What are the Firebase shenanigans you refer to? First I’ve heard of it but I’m interested.
- swiley 5y ago
  I'd imagine it's something like iOS where you don't get battery friendly push notifications without using services from the OS vendor and there's no way for the user to select a 3rd party service instead.
  - seized 5y ago
    Which is fine for most users. I don't want every app doing its own inefficient push/pull notifications and tanking my battery, and I am as pro open source/etc/etc as most here.
    - swiley 5y ago
      The result of this is that every app does do inefficient notifications because in many cases it has no access to an external (to the app) notification service on the phone. Just another crappy smartphone OS feature that works fine on OSes where the developers don't want to control every aspect of the device.
    - asddubs 5y ago
      Well, it doesn't have to be a binary choice between that and google offering it. There could be an OS API where you can hotswap who actually delivers those notifications. Right now I believe the google server actually gets hardcoded into the apps using it.
tyingq 5y ago
I don't think this suit makes it any less likely that various governments will come after that angle also. There's quite a lot of anti-(Google|Facebook|Amazon) sentiment floating around in various government entities right now. I assume it must resonate with voters.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  >I assume it must resonate with voters. Most voters care more about things like their salary, healthcare, education, retirement and real estate prices, and in general just making ends meet, not which SV megacorp gets to be the defacto tech monopoly.
  - tyingq 5y ago
    Perhaps, though if it's not voters, what is causing the uptick in interest among politicians?
    - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
      Lobbying from equally wealthy competitors who couldn't become monopolies?
      - tyingq 5y ago
        Seems odd that lobbying from what would be much smaller entities would somehow overtake lobbying from the giants.
        ChuckNorris89 5y ago
        Would you consider someone like Microsoft a small entity? Do you think they're just gonna sit back and accept that Apple and Google got to shove them out of the mobile space completely?
        vimacs2 5y ago

This is such a BS lawsuit. It would be so much better for consumers if they had instead looked into googles firebase and play services shenanigans.

by zibzab 5y ago

This is such a BS lawsuit. It would be so much better for consumers if they had instead looked into googles firebase and play services shenanigans.

paulgb 5y ago

What are the Firebase shenanigans you refer to? First I’ve heard of it but I’m interested.

swiley 5y ago
I'd imagine it's something like iOS where you don't get battery friendly push notifications without using services from the OS vendor and there's no way for the user to select a 3rd party service instead.
- seized 5y ago
  Which is fine for most users. I don't want every app doing its own inefficient push/pull notifications and tanking my battery, and I am as pro open source/etc/etc as most here.
  - swiley 5y ago
    The result of this is that every app does do inefficient notifications because in many cases it has no access to an external (to the app) notification service on the phone. Just another crappy smartphone OS feature that works fine on OSes where the developers don't want to control every aspect of the device.
  - asddubs 5y ago
    Well, it doesn't have to be a binary choice between that and google offering it. There could be an OS API where you can hotswap who actually delivers those notifications. Right now I believe the google server actually gets hardcoded into the apps using it.

tyingq 5y ago

I don't think this suit makes it any less likely that various governments will come after that angle also. There's quite a lot of anti-(Google|Facebook|Amazon) sentiment floating around in various government entities right now. I assume it must resonate with voters.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>I assume it must resonate with voters. Most voters care more about things like their salary, healthcare, education, retirement and real estate prices, and in general just making ends meet, not which SV megacorp gets to be the defacto tech monopoly.
- tyingq 5y ago
  Perhaps, though if it's not voters, what is causing the uptick in interest among politicians?
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    Lobbying from equally wealthy competitors who couldn't become monopolies?
    - tyingq 5y ago
      Seems odd that lobbying from what would be much smaller entities would somehow overtake lobbying from the giants.
      - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
        Would you consider someone like Microsoft a small entity? Do you think they're just gonna sit back and accept that Apple and Google got to shove them out of the mobile space completely?
        vimacs2 5y ago