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Amazon requires you show ID and have a camera on for their online peogramming screening. I chose to not enable my laptop webcam and to instead apply elsewhere,

by erhk 5y ago

Amazon requires you show ID and have a camera on for their online peogramming screening. I chose to not enable my laptop webcam and to instead apply elsewhere, mostly from self respect. In paying an institute for education i doubt students have a similar luxury. I hope that the EU might enforce privacy similar to the move against cookies. Likewise i would love to see restrictions that prohibit facial recognition in private businesses without consent

miki123211 5y ago
This seems not to be a thing in the EU at all. At least in Poland where I live, it's pretty much unheard of. Sure, cameras are required once in a while, sometimes you need to show your student ID, but the scary e-proctoring software doesn't exist at all.
- Etheryte 5y ago
  Anecdotal evidence, but I heard TU Delft (in the Netherlands) used e-proctoring software like this in some high level exams. So it might not be that black and white. If anything, I'd wager you mostly just don't hear about it because most students have nearly no leverage in situations like this.
  - user_7832 5y ago
    I’m a TU Delft master’s student so I can comment on this. E-proctoring here is highly dependent on your department (also called faculty). I am in the TPM faculty where we don’t have any proctoring whatsoever (most of our exams are open book). But I do know from my friend that Aerospace has quite heavy proctoring with closed book exams. Similarly CS too (if I recall correctly) has proctoring. Additionally, proctoring is unsurprisingly quite unpopular amongst students - for privacy reasons, and also perhaps because of the “assumed guilt”. There’s a lot of push to completely stop e-proctoring university wide. Here are some interesting articles from our newsletter, TU Delta, with a lot of relevant information: 1. https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/online-proctoring-i-was-tears-my-laptop# https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/online-proctoring-i-was... 2. https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/why-ae-students-have-so-many-proctored-exams# https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/why-ae-students-have-so... 3. https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/dont-want-online-proctoring-tu-delft-offers-alternative# https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/dont-want-online-procto...

by erhk 5y ago

miki123211 5y ago

This seems not to be a thing in the EU at all. At least in Poland where I live, it's pretty much unheard of. Sure, cameras are required once in a while, sometimes you need to show your student ID, but the scary e-proctoring software doesn't exist at all.

Etheryte 5y ago
Anecdotal evidence, but I heard TU Delft (in the Netherlands) used e-proctoring software like this in some high level exams. So it might not be that black and white. If anything, I'd wager you mostly just don't hear about it because most students have nearly no leverage in situations like this.
- user_7832 5y ago
  I’m a TU Delft master’s student so I can comment on this. E-proctoring here is highly dependent on your department (also called faculty). I am in the TPM faculty where we don’t have any proctoring whatsoever (most of our exams are open book). But I do know from my friend that Aerospace has quite heavy proctoring with closed book exams. Similarly CS too (if I recall correctly) has proctoring. Additionally, proctoring is unsurprisingly quite unpopular amongst students - for privacy reasons, and also perhaps because of the “assumed guilt”. There’s a lot of push to completely stop e-proctoring university wide. Here are some interesting articles from our newsletter, TU Delta, with a lot of relevant information: 1. https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/online-proctoring-i-was-tears-my-laptop# https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/online-proctoring-i-was... 2. https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/why-ae-students-have-so-many-proctored-exams# https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/why-ae-students-have-so... 3. https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/dont-want-online-proctoring-tu-delft-offers-alternative# https://www.delta.tudelft.nl/article/dont-want-online-procto...