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More nonsense. There are the usual male-female dynamics at play in any relationship, but this constant falsehood being propogated here about how Islam denies th

by isr 5y ago

More nonsense. There are the usual male-female dynamics at play in any relationship, but this constant falsehood being propogated here about how Islam denies these rights is not just misleading, its the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of the truth. I repeat, the ability of a wife to divorce her husband is enshrined in Islam. In capital letters, With a bold font. And yes, that includes Afghanistan. And yes, I AM from that region (before you bring up that nonsense). Obviously you are not - as evidenced by the usual hokus pocus anti-Muslim superstitions you're spreading. You're just spreading FUD, possibly spoonfed to you by other even more disreputable sources. As other posters have said, keep your ignorant falsehoods, FUD and superstitious nonsense ("she would be beheaded" - please ...) to yourself. Feel free to keep lying to yourself and believe it. Just don't spread it here. The End.

candiodari 5y ago
> I repeat, the ability of a wife to divorce her husband is enshrined in Islam. In capital letters, With a bold font. That is the best kind of lie. It's technically true. Yes a woman is not executed for divorcing a husband. To that point, what you say is correct. But it still really obscures the truth rather than help people see it. A man can divorce his wife. Easily and fast. NOT the other way around. If the wife remarries without divorce, which may of course be the point, the punishment is indeed death. And yes that's because of the second marriage: sex is assumed if she remarries, and carries punishment of death. I don't believe the method is specified. So yes you can claim that any particular method of killing that woman is not prescribed, although stoning seems to be generally agreed upon, even if not acted upon, by most of the muslim world. Great. It is definitely prescribed that she be executed. Yes the GP was slightly off base, but you are painting this backward religion as way nicer than it actually is. Also worth mentioning, by the way, any divorce assigns all kids to the man. Always. Without exception, even if prenuptial agreement says different (and let's not discuss Shi'a islam). There's a reason there's an arabic saying it's wiser for a woman to poison her husband than to divorce.
- isr 5y ago
  You're deluded. As someone with experience of more than a few Muslim countries, I can categorically say that nothing you're trying to paint has any semblence to reality. You're pretending that a woman who divorces and remarries is considered to be guilty of adultery. The Quran, in black and white, disagrees with you. Legal code in every Muslim country I am aware of does not agree with you. And no Muslim society I have any experience of would tolerate what you're trying to push. In short, you're lying. > but you are painting this backward religion as way nicer than it actually is. And this quote shows your agenda and incentive. This is nothing more than bigoted online trolling. You're adding 2 and 2, getting 35, and screaming out loud about it. You're just rehashing stuff you consume from other equally-excited anti-Muslim bigots, who swap all sorts of fake superstitious nonsense of what Islam actually is (none of which has any connection to reality). Its sad. Pathetic, sad, and yet oh so predictable. Whatever your affliction, deal with it on your own time, and in your own space. Hacker News is not the place for flat-earthers and other such-like fakery peddlers.
  - candiodari 5y ago
    > You're pretending that a woman who divorces and remarries is considered to be guilty of adultery. A woman cannot divorce a man. So the situation you're describing is a woman who doesn't divorce and remarries. This is a fallacy: you're just "misunderstanding" a situation and then describing the outcome of a different one with strong wording. > And this quote shows your agenda and incentive And I suppose you attacking me shows your agenda. What is it with people defending 1500 year old texts? They are backward. All of them. Including your favorite one. Including my favorite one. Is that really so controversial? We know better. On all fronts. Better than every religion. Including your favorite one. Even if I'm indeed a bigot, and perhaps I am, it doesn't pertain to the argument.
    - isr 5y ago
      > A woman cannot divorce a man A blatant lie. False. Untrue. As I said, you're just a flat-earther. The real joke is that you're probably unaware of what Islam actually teaches, nor what the law is in practice. You're just regurgitating ragged hand-me-down propaganda sheets. And you've swallowed the kool aid. Yes, definately a flat-earther ... > So the situation you're describing is a woman who doesn't divorce and remarries. No, thats the situation racist Islamophobic bigot #1 tried to insist upon. Do try to keep up. > Even if I'm indeed a bigot, and perhaps I am Self awareness is a start. Stick on that path. > it doesn't pertain to the argument There really isn't an argument to be had when you and your ilk's "arguments" are 50% complete ignorance and 50% outright deliberate lies. And you are 100% stuck to your bigoted guns. So thats the end of that.

by isr 5y ago

candiodari 5y ago

> I repeat, the ability of a wife to divorce her husband is enshrined in Islam. In capital letters, With a bold font. That is the best kind of lie. It's technically true. Yes a woman is not executed for divorcing a husband. To that point, what you say is correct. But it still really obscures the truth rather than help people see it. A man can divorce his wife. Easily and fast. NOT the other way around. If the wife remarries without divorce, which may of course be the point, the punishment is indeed death. And yes that's because of the second marriage: sex is assumed if she remarries, and carries punishment of death. I don't believe the method is specified. So yes you can claim that any particular method of killing that woman is not prescribed, although stoning seems to be generally agreed upon, even if not acted upon, by most of the muslim world. Great. It is definitely prescribed that she be executed. Yes the GP was slightly off base, but you are painting this backward religion as way nicer than it actually is. Also worth mentioning, by the way, any divorce assigns all kids to the man. Always. Without exception, even if prenuptial agreement says different (and let's not discuss Shi'a islam). There's a reason there's an arabic saying it's wiser for a woman to poison her husband than to divorce.

isr 5y ago
You're deluded. As someone with experience of more than a few Muslim countries, I can categorically say that nothing you're trying to paint has any semblence to reality. You're pretending that a woman who divorces and remarries is considered to be guilty of adultery. The Quran, in black and white, disagrees with you. Legal code in every Muslim country I am aware of does not agree with you. And no Muslim society I have any experience of would tolerate what you're trying to push. In short, you're lying. > but you are painting this backward religion as way nicer than it actually is. And this quote shows your agenda and incentive. This is nothing more than bigoted online trolling. You're adding 2 and 2, getting 35, and screaming out loud about it. You're just rehashing stuff you consume from other equally-excited anti-Muslim bigots, who swap all sorts of fake superstitious nonsense of what Islam actually is (none of which has any connection to reality). Its sad. Pathetic, sad, and yet oh so predictable. Whatever your affliction, deal with it on your own time, and in your own space. Hacker News is not the place for flat-earthers and other such-like fakery peddlers.
- candiodari 5y ago
  > You're pretending that a woman who divorces and remarries is considered to be guilty of adultery. A woman cannot divorce a man. So the situation you're describing is a woman who doesn't divorce and remarries. This is a fallacy: you're just "misunderstanding" a situation and then describing the outcome of a different one with strong wording. > And this quote shows your agenda and incentive And I suppose you attacking me shows your agenda. What is it with people defending 1500 year old texts? They are backward. All of them. Including your favorite one. Including my favorite one. Is that really so controversial? We know better. On all fronts. Better than every religion. Including your favorite one. Even if I'm indeed a bigot, and perhaps I am, it doesn't pertain to the argument.
  - isr 5y ago
    > A woman cannot divorce a man A blatant lie. False. Untrue. As I said, you're just a flat-earther. The real joke is that you're probably unaware of what Islam actually teaches, nor what the law is in practice. You're just regurgitating ragged hand-me-down propaganda sheets. And you've swallowed the kool aid. Yes, definately a flat-earther ... > So the situation you're describing is a woman who doesn't divorce and remarries. No, thats the situation racist Islamophobic bigot #1 tried to insist upon. Do try to keep up. > Even if I'm indeed a bigot, and perhaps I am Self awareness is a start. Stick on that path. > it doesn't pertain to the argument There really isn't an argument to be had when you and your ilk's "arguments" are 50% complete ignorance and 50% outright deliberate lies. And you are 100% stuck to your bigoted guns. So thats the end of that.