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That's a good question. However, as a NZer, I think it's a pretty good deal for NZ to admit someone like Hölzle even if he only stays here for a year. For sure
by roca 5y ago
That's a good question. However, as a NZer, I think it's a pretty good deal for NZ to admit someone like Hölzle even if he only stays here for a year. For sure he will contribute to the economy by spending significant amounts (we have a sales tax he can't evade), and we should be able to collect income tax too. It's also good for our tech industry to have people like him around.
- disabled 5y agoMore likely than not (from what I have researched online in the past 20 minutes or so) what was done for Urs was likely a form of corruption. It also appears like a form of corruption, on the surface. You do not want these people in your country. Trust me. I am saying this as an American. These are the kind of people who will eviscerate your government from the inside out, just in general. They will also ruin pension programs for the average person. They have contempt for things like government and pensions and they will fight tooth and nail to ruin them. They have a libertarian mindset. These are the kind of people who exploit others, in so many ways that it can be written into multiple books. The short term payoff is not worth it. Trust me.
- roca 5y agoI have no reason to believe Hölzle is particularly corrupt or that he obtained entry in a way that's more corrupt than the banal "paid really diligent people to work the bureaucracy to his advantage". NZ's tolerance for personal bribery of officials is very low.
- NamTaf 5y agoYou really need to provide evidence to some of your claims here. People have shown that NZ has investment pathways. It’s entirely possible he used them. If you disagree with those, fine, that’s your call. However, that doesn’t make it corruption, and you shouldn’t frame it as such.
- disabled 5y agoI provided evidence earlier with contextual information via this link, which was a huge document produced by the European Union on golden visas and golden passports: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document.html?reference=EPRS_STU(2018)627128 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document.html?re...
- roca 5y agoFWIW, in the NZ context, AFAIK there are no tax advantages for NZ's investor visa schemes (over whatever all NZers enjoy). And NZ is far from a tax haven.
- taway_scott 5y agoWow this is borderline slander.
- techcode 5y agoOh wow... While being Serbian, with family from Croatia (some of which are now there dealing with corrupt government employees accepting faked papers to transfer land ownership). Means I totally get the pessimistic and corruption focused view of the world/governments/etc. We just don't have enough info to go into such tabloid level direction for this guy. --- Maybe his wife or one of grandparents came from N.Z. and he can live/work there without visa?!? Maybe it's intra-company transfer (like how many Googlers from "east" start in EU/Canada, and then get transferred to USA after a year or two) there? --- Either way - it's still pretty shitty "Do as I say, not as I do" behavior from the guy, and Google itself (Hey, here are great tools for remote collaboration with your team - as long as you're not a Google employee).
- disabled 5y agoYou’re right. I am being overly judgmental here. I am also sorry that your family is dealing with Croatian government corruption, which is never OK. I hope your family is able to get a good lawyer, that will protect your family’s interests and needs.