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Perhaps you should think of your tilt when you see ideology in fact checkers

screye 5y ago
I'll apologize in advance my response maybe a bit snarky. Your comment does not read like it comes from a place of good faith, so I find it hard to reciprocate. > Perhaps you should think of your tilt when you see ideology in fact checkers That's an awfully convenient way to disregard literally any and all scepticism. Just over the last month the the lab leak theory has gone from conspiracy to a mainstream possibility and the facts in Assange case turned over their head. In any political matter, facts take ages to establish and sometimes facts themselves are no more than uneasy consensus. When I'm personally invested, It takes me days to verify facts despite all the resources at my disposal and even then I leave some space to have my mind changed. In a world where all of NYT, CNN and Fox are doing their best to destroy public trust (some more than others), faith in reporting is rather hard to come by. If you think underpaid faceless social media community fact checkers have either the ability or the moral purity to identify and report facts then, then I must regretfully refer to such an opinion as naive.
- jimsimmons 5y ago
  I agree. But Twitter’s fact checking in India is not about such nuanced matters. Someone literally makes up Hindu-Muslim BS and spreads it on social media when it’s demonstrably false. This is what folks like Alt News do. Bust fake news about “Brahmin priest attacked by Salim” as “A picture of a guy accidentally falling in the pit from 2004”
  - screye 5y ago
    altnews is the definition of a propaganda channel. Almost all their debunking is "BJP propaganda is false." That's fair, but they barely even touch similar propaganda being spread by opposition. it is a classic case of lying by omission. Especially when you call yourself a 'fact checker'.
    - jimsimmons 5y ago
      I don’t understand how anyone can take any issue with someone reducing fake news however biased they are. Some scientist spend their entire lives critiquing certain areas of research. That doesn’t make them less valid or valuable. In fact it’s the opposite. Why does a party that apparently enjoys extreme popularity need such high amounts of fake news? The fact that you see propaganda in a fake news fighter and not the fake news shows you’re a fish in the an ocean of fake news.
sdave 5y ago
you should too.

I'll apologize in advance my response maybe a bit snarky. Your comment does not read like it comes from a place of good faith, so I find it hard to reciprocate. > Perhaps you should think of your tilt when you see ideology in fact checkers That's an awfully convenient way to disregard literally any and all scepticism. Just over the last month the the lab leak theory has gone from conspiracy to a mainstream possibility and the facts in Assange case turned over their head. In any political matter, facts take ages to establish and sometimes facts themselves are no more than uneasy consensus. When I'm personally invested, It takes me days to verify facts despite all the resources at my disposal and even then I leave some space to have my mind changed. In a world where all of NYT, CNN and Fox are doing their best to destroy public trust (some more than others), faith in reporting is rather hard to come by. If you think underpaid faceless social media community fact checkers have either the ability or the moral purity to identify and report facts then, then I must regretfully refer to such an opinion as naive.

jimsimmons 5y ago
I agree. But Twitter’s fact checking in India is not about such nuanced matters. Someone literally makes up Hindu-Muslim BS and spreads it on social media when it’s demonstrably false. This is what folks like Alt News do. Bust fake news about “Brahmin priest attacked by Salim” as “A picture of a guy accidentally falling in the pit from 2004”
- screye 5y ago
  altnews is the definition of a propaganda channel. Almost all their debunking is "BJP propaganda is false." That's fair, but they barely even touch similar propaganda being spread by opposition. it is a classic case of lying by omission. Especially when you call yourself a 'fact checker'.
  - jimsimmons 5y ago
    I don’t understand how anyone can take any issue with someone reducing fake news however biased they are. Some scientist spend their entire lives critiquing certain areas of research. That doesn’t make them less valid or valuable. In fact it’s the opposite. Why does a party that apparently enjoys extreme popularity need such high amounts of fake news? The fact that you see propaganda in a fake news fighter and not the fake news shows you’re a fish in the an ocean of fake news.

sdave 5y ago

you should too.