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I just want to know how he's getting into NZ since the border is closed to non-citizens and people who can't prove existing residency. Asking for a friend, who

I just want to know how he's getting into NZ since the border is closed to non-citizens and people who can't prove existing residency. Asking for a friend, who's me, also trying to move to NZ. :)

bioinformatics 5y ago
Is your friend a FAANG exec? If not, I am sorry.
- foobarbazetc 5y ago
  Even FAANG exec's aren't allowed in, last time I checked. NZ doesn't care about that sort of thing. Only if you have $$$ to put in somewhere. But maybe things got loosened up a little bit lately, pre-Delta, plus we don't know where Urs has citizenship.
  - paxys 5y ago
    > Only if you have $$$ to put in somewhere. Which FAANG execs do
  - plantain 5y ago
    >NZ doesn't care about that sort of thing. Are we thinking of the same NZ? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-coronavirus-wealthy-investors-due-to-arrive-on-new-border-exemption/E6SRPTAATZ7C3TIU2WKVYZ3FRQ/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-coronavirus-wea... https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/446151/border-exemptions-visas-approved-for-14-wealthy-investors https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/446151/border-exemptions...
threeseed 5y ago
In most countries the minister responsible for border control will have wide discretion about who is allowed in and out. This means that if you’re politically well connected it can be trivial to get the necessary approvals. But for everyone else it will be extremely difficult, especially for countries like Australia and NZ which have very low vaccination rates.
- Taniwha 5y ago
  Here in NZ that would be considered corruption - likely resulting scandal if discovered. We do have an out for very rich people who want to invest here (Peter Thiel abused this to get NZ citizenship from our previous right wing govt, there has been a lot of shouting about this)
LAC-Tech 5y ago
NZer here. Why would you want to move here? Everything is expensive, the houses are made of cardboard, and local opportunities are extremely limited.
- TheAlchemist 5y ago
  When you say opportunities are extremely limited - is it in general or in IT specifically ? I’m planning to move to NZ soon and would love to hear more about the IT market.
  - zinckiwi 5y ago
    The IT market is essentially non-existent outside the main centres (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch), and of those only Christchurch approaches affordable (mostly as a consequence of its recent shakiness).
    - breck 5y ago
      I haven't been there in a decade, but back in ~2010 I remember it being slightly cheaper than American, and noticeably cheaper than Australia. Have things changed?
      - EdwardDiego 5y ago
        Housing prices don't ever stop here, a lack of CGT and aggressively lending banks means a very unhealthy amount of capital ends up in residential real-estate. My wife and I bought a 1950s, 5 bedroom house 30 minutes north of Christchurch for $520K in 2018. Estimated market price is now $640K. Not bad capital gains in two years... ...not that we're selling until some kids move out of home. Prices have also been pushed up by expats with considerable purchasing power fleeing Covid, and supply that is very far behind demand. There was something like 1 million Kiwis living overseas before Covid, which is 20% of the population here.
      - RantyDave 5y ago
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/125691812/wellingtons-redhot-housing-market-records-third-fastest-price-rise-in-the-world https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/1256918... Long story short: if you want a three bedroom house, a garage, a little bit of garden, perhaps a view? A million bucks. Roughly twelve times average wage.
wasmitnetzen 5y ago
There are exceptions for the rich and famous, of course. [1] [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-newzealand-avatar-idUSKBN23M19T https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-newzea...

I just want to know how he's getting into NZ since the border is closed to non-citizens and people who can't prove existing residency. Asking for a friend, who's me, also trying to move to NZ. :)

bioinformatics 5y ago

Is your friend a FAANG exec? If not, I am sorry.

foobarbazetc 5y ago
Even FAANG exec's aren't allowed in, last time I checked. NZ doesn't care about that sort of thing. Only if you have $$$ to put in somewhere. But maybe things got loosened up a little bit lately, pre-Delta, plus we don't know where Urs has citizenship.
- paxys 5y ago
  > Only if you have $$$ to put in somewhere. Which FAANG execs do
- plantain 5y ago
  >NZ doesn't care about that sort of thing. Are we thinking of the same NZ? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-coronavirus-wealthy-investors-due-to-arrive-on-new-border-exemption/E6SRPTAATZ7C3TIU2WKVYZ3FRQ/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-coronavirus-wea... https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/446151/border-exemptions-visas-approved-for-14-wealthy-investors https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/446151/border-exemptions...

threeseed 5y ago

In most countries the minister responsible for border control will have wide discretion about who is allowed in and out. This means that if you’re politically well connected it can be trivial to get the necessary approvals. But for everyone else it will be extremely difficult, especially for countries like Australia and NZ which have very low vaccination rates.

Taniwha 5y ago
Here in NZ that would be considered corruption - likely resulting scandal if discovered. We do have an out for very rich people who want to invest here (Peter Thiel abused this to get NZ citizenship from our previous right wing govt, there has been a lot of shouting about this)

LAC-Tech 5y ago

NZer here. Why would you want to move here? Everything is expensive, the houses are made of cardboard, and local opportunities are extremely limited.

TheAlchemist 5y ago
When you say opportunities are extremely limited - is it in general or in IT specifically ? I’m planning to move to NZ soon and would love to hear more about the IT market.
- zinckiwi 5y ago
  The IT market is essentially non-existent outside the main centres (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch), and of those only Christchurch approaches affordable (mostly as a consequence of its recent shakiness).
  - breck 5y ago
    I haven't been there in a decade, but back in ~2010 I remember it being slightly cheaper than American, and noticeably cheaper than Australia. Have things changed?
    - EdwardDiego 5y ago
      Housing prices don't ever stop here, a lack of CGT and aggressively lending banks means a very unhealthy amount of capital ends up in residential real-estate. My wife and I bought a 1950s, 5 bedroom house 30 minutes north of Christchurch for $520K in 2018. Estimated market price is now $640K. Not bad capital gains in two years... ...not that we're selling until some kids move out of home. Prices have also been pushed up by expats with considerable purchasing power fleeing Covid, and supply that is very far behind demand. There was something like 1 million Kiwis living overseas before Covid, which is 20% of the population here.
    - RantyDave 5y ago
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/125691812/wellingtons-redhot-housing-market-records-third-fastest-price-rise-in-the-world https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/real-estate/1256918... Long story short: if you want a three bedroom house, a garage, a little bit of garden, perhaps a view? A million bucks. Roughly twelve times average wage.

wasmitnetzen 5y ago

There are exceptions for the rich and famous, of course. [1] [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-newzealand-avatar-idUSKBN23M19T https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-newzea...