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It doesn't seem that bad to believe lower level staff should have different working environments to higher level staff. I don't believe it's particularly hypocr
by onion2k 5y ago
It doesn't seem that bad to believe lower level staff should have different working environments to higher level staff. I don't believe it's particularly hypocritical of my boss to have more flexibility in the way he works than I enjoy.
- Graffur 5y agoWhat's your thought process here? Is it related to the job role or you think underlings should just be treated differently/worse?
- beaconstudios 5y agoI mean, that is how it already works in the workplace. More senior positions are better compensated, including perks. I personally think individuals should have the choice to work locally or remotely, if it doesn't considerably impact their work (ie a job that doesn't require a lot of face to face time), but the idea that more senior people get better options really doesn't need to be justified as a deviation from the norm.
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- the_other 5y agoIt really does.
- the_jeremy 5y agoI know that as a junior engineer (~ first two years) I needed a lot more direction and handholding, and that is much easier to get in an office than remotely.
- viraptor 5y agoThis is really cultural / company specific. I spent days on screenshare coding with fresh team members. Literally had days of that in my schedule. If it matters for the company/management it's not harder to do remotely.
- bcrosby95 5y agoSo, what, you have a playpen of juniors and no one there to help them? That makes zero sense. The premise of lower level staff needing to be in person is so senior level staff can interact with, help, and guide them. If the senior level staff isn't there it's pointless.
- s1artibartfast 5y agoThis all depends on where you draw the line for senior and job responsibilities. One position is that juniors and mentors must come onsite and work in the playpen. Alternatively, you could expect the juniors to train help each other in the playpen with offsite mentoring. It all comes down to how you think your shop is most productive and how learning will occur.
- rodgerd 5y agoI am put in mind of the policy during the years when HP were a successful, growing company, that managers sat in open areas, while engineers sat in offices; the managers' work is being available to their staff; staff needed to be able to focus on their work. This is just capitalism-is-feudalism bullshit.
- astrange 5y agoThat probably works, but a downside is that you probably want privacy when having a 1:1, and if you only leave for a meeting room when it's a difficult conversation, then people are going to be able to tell. Also when I worked in a former HP building there weren't any windows in the offices, so that was depressing.
- Barrin92 5y agoLeaders should be in the thick of it. People in leadership positions should have less flexibility because they shoulder by definition more responsibility. They need to be the first in the office and the last one out. If you have an organisation where privileges increase and responsiveness decline as you move up the ladder you have invented cronyism. Someone in a top position needs to always be reachable, physically. It's the random coders who should be able to work remotely, not executives. Say what you want about Musk's behaviour outside of work but he exemplifies this. Guy basically lived on the factory floor for months at a time.
- machinehermiter 5y agoLead from the back. Do what I say, not what I do. Just terrible leadership.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoGood leadership is sacrificial.
- hogFeast 5y agoYour boss should have less flexibility not more. Too many people pretending to lead. Too many people in executive positions. Not enough actual leaders. If Google loses this guy, tomorrow...whatever, he is just an employee, he is a cog. If all the guys beneath him decide to stop working, it is over.