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It amazes me how people think the worlds largest advertising company is pushing DoH out of alturism. That pihole you're running? That 'steals' money from google
by iso1210 5y ago
It amazes me how people think the worlds largest advertising company is pushing DoH out of alturism. That pihole you're running? That 'steals' money from google. DOH gets rid of that.
- josephcsible 5y agoYou can still use ad blocking with DoH. Just pick a DoH server that does so (or run your own) instead of using the default one. Or just use a browser extension like uBlock Origin instead. Nobody's trying to kill your Pi-hole with DoH. They're trying to kill your Pi-hole by serving ads from first-party domains.
- depingus 5y agoYou missed the point. OP is talking about app and IoT devs hard coding DoH servers into their products so that they can bypass any tracking, advertising, and privacy restrictions (aka piHole) you put in place.
- josephcsible 5y agoDevices like that could just hardcode the IP addresses of their ad servers instead, so DoH isn't really the culprit there.
- Spivak 5y agoYeah there’s nothing about DoH that a Google or any IoT device maker couldn’t have done 10 years ago if they really wanted to bypass local DNS servers.
- SilverRed 5y agoThe companies willing to do this already made their products fail to load when their ad domains could not be reached. I tried pi hole for a week and found every ad infested service would just throw an error. This also means nothing for firefox. Firefox can not use DoH and iot products can just implement it themselves.
- csunbird 5y agoHow many people would be interested in an open DNS service, with the publicly configurable rules e.g. blocklists/custom dns configurations, or rule-lists like ublock origin? I am thinking of starting one.