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Which ones are good then?

imwillofficial 5y ago
PIA has been tested in court as not keeping your data. Other than that you're placing trust in others, depends on what you wanna keep secret.
- Tenoke 5y ago
  That's from before it got sold to Kape who has had a horrible track record with VPNs.
  - Nullabillity 5y ago
    They're also ran by Andrew Lee/Rasengan, who killed Freenode about a month ago. So, uh, that's great.
ipaddr 5y ago
Depends on what you want it for. To pretend you are in the US for netflix or to evade the fbi. The ones that advertise are good for the first. Rolling your own fixes one issue and raises another.
bserge 5y ago
Your own, purchased using untraceable means (fake ID is the easiest... and likely most illegal).
anoncake 5y ago
If you pay using the right method, Mullvad doesn't know your identity.
- mrzimmerman 5y ago
  Came here to promote Mullvad as well. Not that they can’t point back to your up address or some such but since you can login to the VPN using a unique identifier instead of an email address and password it’s a pretty decent way to decouple it from your PII.
  - elliekelly 5y ago
    And you can pay with cash. I always feel a bit funny dropping $10 cash in the mail with no return address but so far it’s always made it into my account.
    - phyalow 5y ago
      They have your fingerprints now (and possibly your DNA from the stamp)!
      - SahAssar 5y ago
        No, I use SnailOnionCoin. It sends my cash through a number of intermediaries, each just getting a .onion adress explaining where to send it next. Every hop is also switched between cash in snailmail, western union and bitcoin to make it harder to trace the links and make sure that physical traces (like fingerprints) or legal traces (like the postal system or traditional financial transfers) don't make it to the final recipient.
        zenyc 5y ago
        Is this satire or a real thing? Because nothing comes up when I google it.
        SahAssar 5y ago
        The website is only available on IPFS-over-TOR-over-IPoAC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers). We take secrecy very seriously.
      - fuzxi 5y ago
        Not only your fingerprints, but the fingerprints of the dozens of people who handled the envelope and cash. Who knows what they could do with so much information?
  - fomine3 5y ago
jchw 5y ago
I think you can't really prove an entity to be trustworthy; you can only really prove that an entity is not. I trust Mullvad about as much as it's possible to trust a VPN company... but, that's probably as good of a recommendation as you can really get.

PIA has been tested in court as not keeping your data. Other than that you're placing trust in others, depends on what you wanna keep secret.

Tenoke 5y ago
That's from before it got sold to Kape who has had a horrible track record with VPNs.
- Nullabillity 5y ago
  They're also ran by Andrew Lee/Rasengan, who killed Freenode about a month ago. So, uh, that's great.

ipaddr 5y ago

Depends on what you want it for. To pretend you are in the US for netflix or to evade the fbi. The ones that advertise are good for the first. Rolling your own fixes one issue and raises another.

bserge 5y ago

Your own, purchased using untraceable means (fake ID is the easiest... and likely most illegal).

anoncake 5y ago

If you pay using the right method, Mullvad doesn't know your identity.

mrzimmerman 5y ago
Came here to promote Mullvad as well. Not that they can’t point back to your up address or some such but since you can login to the VPN using a unique identifier instead of an email address and password it’s a pretty decent way to decouple it from your PII.
- elliekelly 5y ago
  And you can pay with cash. I always feel a bit funny dropping $10 cash in the mail with no return address but so far it’s always made it into my account.
  - phyalow 5y ago
    They have your fingerprints now (and possibly your DNA from the stamp)!
    - SahAssar 5y ago
      No, I use SnailOnionCoin. It sends my cash through a number of intermediaries, each just getting a .onion adress explaining where to send it next. Every hop is also switched between cash in snailmail, western union and bitcoin to make it harder to trace the links and make sure that physical traces (like fingerprints) or legal traces (like the postal system or traditional financial transfers) don't make it to the final recipient.
      - zenyc 5y ago
        Is this satire or a real thing? Because nothing comes up when I google it.
        SahAssar 5y ago
        The website is only available on IPFS-over-TOR-over-IPoAC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers). We take secrecy very seriously.
    - fuzxi 5y ago
      Not only your fingerprints, but the fingerprints of the dozens of people who handled the envelope and cash. Who knows what they could do with so much information?
- fomine3 5y ago

jchw 5y ago

I think you can't really prove an entity to be trustworthy; you can only really prove that an entity is not. I trust Mullvad about as much as it's possible to trust a VPN company... but, that's probably as good of a recommendation as you can really get.