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The name Stellantis is not well known in the US, even less so than the brands they own, several of which aren't even for sale here. But... researching electric

The name Stellantis is not well known in the US, even less so than the brands they own, several of which aren't even for sale here. But... researching electric cars out of my interest in the US market for them (and my interest in getting one as a former Prius owner) led me to look casually at what was for sale in other countries. I was absolutely stunned. What's available in electric cars in Europe would blow your mind. It's de rigeur. Every brand has multiple platforms and options. Here, the companies' stance seems to be "Well, we make some cars and then we also make this electric stepchild." This is not true of Stellantis. They are well in the game. I think its safe to say that, with the possible exception of VW, Stellantis is further ahead on mass commercialization of electric cars than anyone. Like VW, they are very much not kidding around with electric (especially skateboard platforms) being the future of all cars. The optics from other companies are not so clear. GM is wishy washy. Toyota is still pretending hydrogen for passenger cars is a thing. Honda is having GM build its skateboard, or at least they were until they flip flopped last week and realized they better build their own. Ford debased their famous Mustang brand to get an electric car that Joe Sixpack could buy. Of course, Tesla committed to skateboards early (and now, strangely, suggests moving away from that) and Lucid* with its Tesla DNA is 100% skateboard and will produce passenger cars and SUVs from the same base platform. EDIT: Just found this relevant story[0] from earlier today on HN. Opel is Stellantis and Jaguar is VW. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27773548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27773548 *Full disclosure. I am long on a tiny amount of CCIV which is Lucid's SPAC.

Someone 5y ago
The name ”Stellantis” isn’t well-known anywhere because it’s so new. I know it’s the name of a recent merger between conglomerates, but wouldn’t know which ones. So, let’s look in Wikipedia. It (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis) tells me it’s a Dutch car manufacturer (I guess for tax reasons) that resulted from a merger between Fiat-Chrysler and PSA Group. PSA, I guess, isn’t well-known anywhere either. I know it’s the name of a slightly less recent merger between conglomerates, but wouldn’t know which ones. Again, Wikipedia to the rescue. It (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_Group) mentions Peugeot, Citroën, DS, Opel and Vauxhall. DS apparently was split of from Citroen in 2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS_Automobiles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS_Automobiles) Fiat-Chrysler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles), unsurprisingly, was Fiat+Chrysler, but also some smaller brands such as Dodge, Jeep and Maserati. So, there’s a lot of recent consolidation on the industry. Stellantis has about 300,000 employees and has about a quarter of the market for passenger cars in Europe.
- mimixco 5y ago
  Yes, all these car companies have oddly interwoven histories now. Chrysler is, of course, American automobile royalty. Fiat bought it with Chrysler's own money. Peugeot and Citroën are storied French brands that survived with state assistance. Opel and Vauxhaul used to be GM. I learned recently that Volvo is now Chinese (Geely), Land Rover, once British and later BMW, is now Indian (Tata), and French Bugatti is going to be a joint venture with Croatia (Rimac).

Someone 5y ago

The name ”Stellantis” isn’t well-known anywhere because it’s so new. I know it’s the name of a recent merger between conglomerates, but wouldn’t know which ones. So, let’s look in Wikipedia. It (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis) tells me it’s a Dutch car manufacturer (I guess for tax reasons) that resulted from a merger between Fiat-Chrysler and PSA Group. PSA, I guess, isn’t well-known anywhere either. I know it’s the name of a slightly less recent merger between conglomerates, but wouldn’t know which ones. Again, Wikipedia to the rescue. It (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_Group) mentions Peugeot, Citroën, DS, Opel and Vauxhall. DS apparently was split of from Citroen in 2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS_Automobiles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS_Automobiles) Fiat-Chrysler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles), unsurprisingly, was Fiat+Chrysler, but also some smaller brands such as Dodge, Jeep and Maserati. So, there’s a lot of recent consolidation on the industry. Stellantis has about 300,000 employees and has about a quarter of the market for passenger cars in Europe.

mimixco 5y ago
Yes, all these car companies have oddly interwoven histories now. Chrysler is, of course, American automobile royalty. Fiat bought it with Chrysler's own money. Peugeot and Citroën are storied French brands that survived with state assistance. Opel and Vauxhaul used to be GM. I learned recently that Volvo is now Chinese (Geely), Land Rover, once British and later BMW, is now Indian (Tata), and French Bugatti is going to be a joint venture with Croatia (Rimac).