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Yep. Everything's going to be locked from the bootloader to the screen and you WILL watch the ads. What I think will really happen is the same thing as everyt

Yep. Everything's going to be locked from the bootloader to the screen and you WILL watch the ads. What I think will really happen is the same thing as everything else. They'll use tech to take away features / abilities we have right now and then rent it back to us as a subscription. "OpenDNS is now part of Cisco" Add it up.

tomjen3 5y ago
We are talking about Firefox, a web browser, that allows you the most control over your computer, has the best adblock technology, on which the author of Ublock origin has said his software runs the best, which comes with built-in anti tracking, which now comes with technology making it harder for public wifi to trick your computer into going to captive portals, often with ads. And somehow you ad this up to making it impossible not to see ads and locked down computers. How?
- ocdtrekkie 5y ago
  Firefox's primary sponsor is still Google. And whether they are pushing it because of malice or just incompetence, DoH was designed and built by Google to protect ad companies from network security. Implementing it by default is a hostile act, and one Mozilla should reconsider.
  - slashdot2008 5y ago
    i have a pihole and have been worried that DoH would break it. i checked the network settings in firefox and the DoH setting is there but it is disabled. I doubt that chrome will allow one to disable DoH but at least firefox does for now.
    - iso1210 5y ago
      For now. This is one step in the boiling-the-frog process.
    - ocdtrekkie 5y ago
      I believe Pihole automatically put in the NXDOMAIN entry needed to disable DoH on Firefox for you. But who knows how long Firefox will respect that, since there's nothing stopping ISPs from employing the same strategy to disable DoH.
      - josephcsible 5y ago
        Even if Firefox stops respecting that due to malicious ISPs using it, you'll always be able to turn off DoH in Firefox's preferences.

tomjen3 5y ago

We are talking about Firefox, a web browser, that allows you the most control over your computer, has the best adblock technology, on which the author of Ublock origin has said his software runs the best, which comes with built-in anti tracking, which now comes with technology making it harder for public wifi to trick your computer into going to captive portals, often with ads. And somehow you ad this up to making it impossible not to see ads and locked down computers. How?

ocdtrekkie 5y ago
Firefox's primary sponsor is still Google. And whether they are pushing it because of malice or just incompetence, DoH was designed and built by Google to protect ad companies from network security. Implementing it by default is a hostile act, and one Mozilla should reconsider.
- slashdot2008 5y ago
  i have a pihole and have been worried that DoH would break it. i checked the network settings in firefox and the DoH setting is there but it is disabled. I doubt that chrome will allow one to disable DoH but at least firefox does for now.
  - iso1210 5y ago
    For now. This is one step in the boiling-the-frog process.
  - ocdtrekkie 5y ago
    I believe Pihole automatically put in the NXDOMAIN entry needed to disable DoH on Firefox for you. But who knows how long Firefox will respect that, since there's nothing stopping ISPs from employing the same strategy to disable DoH.
    - josephcsible 5y ago
      Even if Firefox stops respecting that due to malicious ISPs using it, you'll always be able to turn off DoH in Firefox's preferences.