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Phorge: A community-maintained fork of Phabricator

123 points by Redoubts 5y ago

the-dude 5y ago
Related : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27328404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27328404 ( 1 month ago, 139 comments ) Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained
- wyldfire 5y ago
  I hadn't heard about that. Is llvm planning to move reviews off of phabricator to github PRs?
  - Redoubts 5y ago
    Guess it depends how well this fork does.
- speed_spread 5y ago
  It's time to erect Phalicity in its place
  - tomc1985 5y ago
    hyuck hyuck hyuck
denton-scratch 5y ago
"Phork"? [sorry]
cwkoss 5y ago
https://phorge.it/ https://phorge.it/ is down :-( I'd love to see this successful, but the base domain being down shakes my confidence...
- benatkin 5y ago
  That's not a good metric. There's no rule that a website on a subdomain has to have a website on the parent domain.
  - cwkoss 5y ago
    You are technically right, but I think it's a pretty broadly practiced convention. It looks sloppy. Wanting the avoid the appearance of sloppiness should be sufficient motivation for the team to do the pretty minor amount of work to add a functioning redirect.
  - kemayo 5y ago
    In this case it's relevant, because the Phorge page links to the parent domain for the "Phorge is developed and maintained by The Phorge Team" line. Makes it a bit harder to trust said maintenance.
- neandrake 5y ago
  Please see my other comment. The community is still forming around this and working on setting up the proper fork. This project is not yet ready for announcement.
  - neandrake 5y ago
    As a note, we're planning to have a separate landing page on https://phorge.it https://phorge.it, which is why it currently doesn't redirect.
  - gorgoiler 5y ago
    Good luck. Ship it!
dmitriid 5y ago
Serious question: in the past 10 or so years, have their been any successful community-driven forks/projects? Many (most?) of the successful ones are driven by muti-billion/multi-million dollar companies. Some of the "leftovers" from previous eras are more often than not also driven by these companies (just look at contributions to Linux for example).
- the-dude 5y ago
  X.org?
- djur 5y ago
  Jenkins and Hudson split about 10 years ago and the community-driven Jenkins won out over the corporate Hudson. I think it's fair to say that most large-scale community-managed projects are also going to have at least some kind of nonprofit attached, which will probably receive funding from companies which have an interest in keeping things going. For instance, Blender was a commercial and proprietary product that was made open source through a crowdfunded campaign run by a nonprofit created by Blender's original author. The Blender Foundation receives corporate funding and is a major contributor to development, but I think it's also fair to describe it as a successful community-driven project. Honestly, if something is high-profile enough to be identified as "successful" that probably means that someone's getting paid to work on it, and that money is probably coming from a commercial donor on some level or another. The one exception might be in video games: open source releases of games (such as The Ur-Quan Masters) are usually 100% volunteer-driven and are unlikely to receive corporate funding. Some of those have been very successful!
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    > Jenkins and Hudson split about 10 years ago and the community-driven Jenkins won out over the corporate Hudson. Five top contributors to Jenkins are from Cloudbees. $100 million annual recurring revenue [1] Then there's one from Apache. One from RedHat. And even beyond top five contributions are meager to say the least. While opensource, development is driven by the company that builds a product on top of it. > Honestly, if something is high-profile enough to be identified as "successful" that probably means that someone's getting paid to work on it, and that money is probably coming from a commercial donor on some level or another. That was more-or-less a subtext to my question: to work on something big, you probably need full-time engineers. And those engineers at the very least need to eat something :) [1] https://thestack.technology/cloudbees-new-ceo/ https://thestack.technology/cloudbees-new-ceo/
neandrake 5y ago
There is an effort working to establish Phorge as a community-maintained fork but it is not yet in a state for announcement/release. There's still work being done to establish the organization, the fork itself, and the community. Please bear in mind that this is in it's infancy.
- neandrake 5y ago
  That being said, if anyone is interested in participating we have a Zulip up at https://temp-community-phab.zulipchat.com/ https://temp-community-phab.zulipchat.com/ As well as working on the effort on https://we.phorge.it https://we.phorge.it
michaellee8 5y ago
I am actually correctly looking for modifying Phabricator into some non-software project management platform. I guess I may upstream some bug fixes if it comes to my light.

123 points by Redoubts 5y ago

Related : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27328404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27328404 ( 1 month ago, 139 comments ) Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

wyldfire 5y ago
I hadn't heard about that. Is llvm planning to move reviews off of phabricator to github PRs?
- Redoubts 5y ago
  Guess it depends how well this fork does.
speed_spread 5y ago
It's time to erect Phalicity in its place
- tomc1985 5y ago
  hyuck hyuck hyuck

denton-scratch 5y ago

"Phork"? [sorry]

cwkoss 5y ago

https://phorge.it/ https://phorge.it/ is down :-( I'd love to see this successful, but the base domain being down shakes my confidence...

benatkin 5y ago
That's not a good metric. There's no rule that a website on a subdomain has to have a website on the parent domain.
- cwkoss 5y ago
  You are technically right, but I think it's a pretty broadly practiced convention. It looks sloppy. Wanting the avoid the appearance of sloppiness should be sufficient motivation for the team to do the pretty minor amount of work to add a functioning redirect.
- kemayo 5y ago
  In this case it's relevant, because the Phorge page links to the parent domain for the "Phorge is developed and maintained by The Phorge Team" line. Makes it a bit harder to trust said maintenance.
neandrake 5y ago
Please see my other comment. The community is still forming around this and working on setting up the proper fork. This project is not yet ready for announcement.
- neandrake 5y ago
  As a note, we're planning to have a separate landing page on https://phorge.it https://phorge.it, which is why it currently doesn't redirect.
- gorgoiler 5y ago
  Good luck. Ship it!

dmitriid 5y ago

Serious question: in the past 10 or so years, have their been any successful community-driven forks/projects? Many (most?) of the successful ones are driven by muti-billion/multi-million dollar companies. Some of the "leftovers" from previous eras are more often than not also driven by these companies (just look at contributions to Linux for example).

the-dude 5y ago
X.org?
djur 5y ago
Jenkins and Hudson split about 10 years ago and the community-driven Jenkins won out over the corporate Hudson. I think it's fair to say that most large-scale community-managed projects are also going to have at least some kind of nonprofit attached, which will probably receive funding from companies which have an interest in keeping things going. For instance, Blender was a commercial and proprietary product that was made open source through a crowdfunded campaign run by a nonprofit created by Blender's original author. The Blender Foundation receives corporate funding and is a major contributor to development, but I think it's also fair to describe it as a successful community-driven project. Honestly, if something is high-profile enough to be identified as "successful" that probably means that someone's getting paid to work on it, and that money is probably coming from a commercial donor on some level or another. The one exception might be in video games: open source releases of games (such as The Ur-Quan Masters) are usually 100% volunteer-driven and are unlikely to receive corporate funding. Some of those have been very successful!
- dmitriid 5y ago
  > Jenkins and Hudson split about 10 years ago and the community-driven Jenkins won out over the corporate Hudson. Five top contributors to Jenkins are from Cloudbees. $100 million annual recurring revenue [1] Then there's one from Apache. One from RedHat. And even beyond top five contributions are meager to say the least. While opensource, development is driven by the company that builds a product on top of it. > Honestly, if something is high-profile enough to be identified as "successful" that probably means that someone's getting paid to work on it, and that money is probably coming from a commercial donor on some level or another. That was more-or-less a subtext to my question: to work on something big, you probably need full-time engineers. And those engineers at the very least need to eat something :) [1] https://thestack.technology/cloudbees-new-ceo/ https://thestack.technology/cloudbees-new-ceo/

neandrake 5y ago

There is an effort working to establish Phorge as a community-maintained fork but it is not yet in a state for announcement/release. There's still work being done to establish the organization, the fork itself, and the community. Please bear in mind that this is in it's infancy.

neandrake 5y ago
That being said, if anyone is interested in participating we have a Zulip up at https://temp-community-phab.zulipchat.com/ https://temp-community-phab.zulipchat.com/ As well as working on the effort on https://we.phorge.it https://we.phorge.it

michaellee8 5y ago

I am actually correctly looking for modifying Phabricator into some non-software project management platform. I guess I may upstream some bug fixes if it comes to my light.