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I feel like I've gone through the five stages of grief with climate change, and I'm finally at acceptance. There are too many forces pushing it further than to

I feel like I've gone through the five stages of grief with climate change, and I'm finally at acceptance. There are too many forces pushing it further than to prevent it, and governments won't come together to actually do something about it until it's too late. Everything that has a beginning has an end, and maybe this is ours. Over time the earth will heal without us, so instead of worrying about something out of our control (as individuals), how about we just live our short meaningless lives as comfortably as we can and do whatever we want until we die.

zivkovicp 5y ago
Regardless of whether climate change is real or this is all a "green wash", the logical choice is to support ecological preservation and clean air initiatives BECAUSE it's nice to breath clean air and drink clean water. I think it's really that simple. There is very little incentive for us regular people to support heavily polluting industry unless it's required for self preservation in some way. Technology will also find good solutions for reducing the impact if industry is forced down that road.
- umanwizard 5y ago
  Clean air and water have nothing to do with climate change. Climate change is caused by relatively tiny concentrations of CO2, which is perfectly safe to breathe, and not “dirty” or a pollutant in any traditional sense. If you think of climate change and imagine superfund sites, factories dumping sludge in rivers, etc., then you are conflating two concepts that are only tangentially related.
bavell 5y ago
Once we're gone we'll be just another evolutionary dead end and join all the other extinct species while the earth continues happily orbiting the sun for another ~5 billion years... One of my favorite George Carlin bits on this subject: https://youtu.be/BB0aFPXr4n4 https://youtu.be/BB0aFPXr4n4
nickd2001 5y ago
No offence intended, but that seems to me like defeatism, and precisely what no-one must do. While there's any chance to fix this problem, IMHO everyone should do the little they can. e:g, never get in an aeroplane again and tell people why. Buy local food / grow your own, refuse to purchase products shipped from far when there are local alternatives. And tell people why. Ensure any investments you have are not in fossil fuel companies. And tell people why. Drive far less, or not at all. Red meat far less, or not at all. And tell people why! History teaches us there were plenty of totally unacceptable things that have happened and eventually people against the odds stopped this . To pluck a random example, there was a time in the UK for example when women weren't allowed to vote. That got fixed. ;) There must have been some very strong vested interests at the time that didn't want women to vote but it got overturned by strength of public feeling. I really hope this year's weather in N America will be a wake-up call.
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zivkovicp 5y ago

Regardless of whether climate change is real or this is all a "green wash", the logical choice is to support ecological preservation and clean air initiatives BECAUSE it's nice to breath clean air and drink clean water. I think it's really that simple. There is very little incentive for us regular people to support heavily polluting industry unless it's required for self preservation in some way. Technology will also find good solutions for reducing the impact if industry is forced down that road.

umanwizard 5y ago
Clean air and water have nothing to do with climate change. Climate change is caused by relatively tiny concentrations of CO2, which is perfectly safe to breathe, and not “dirty” or a pollutant in any traditional sense. If you think of climate change and imagine superfund sites, factories dumping sludge in rivers, etc., then you are conflating two concepts that are only tangentially related.

bavell 5y ago

Once we're gone we'll be just another evolutionary dead end and join all the other extinct species while the earth continues happily orbiting the sun for another ~5 billion years... One of my favorite George Carlin bits on this subject: https://youtu.be/BB0aFPXr4n4 https://youtu.be/BB0aFPXr4n4

nickd2001 5y ago

No offence intended, but that seems to me like defeatism, and precisely what no-one must do. While there's any chance to fix this problem, IMHO everyone should do the little they can. e:g, never get in an aeroplane again and tell people why. Buy local food / grow your own, refuse to purchase products shipped from far when there are local alternatives. And tell people why. Ensure any investments you have are not in fossil fuel companies. And tell people why. Drive far less, or not at all. Red meat far less, or not at all. And tell people why! History teaches us there were plenty of totally unacceptable things that have happened and eventually people against the odds stopped this . To pluck a random example, there was a time in the UK for example when women weren't allowed to vote. That got fixed. ;) There must have been some very strong vested interests at the time that didn't want women to vote but it got overturned by strength of public feeling. I really hope this year's weather in N America will be a wake-up call.

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