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People don't want the new normal to be like in California and New York where rolling blackouts are the new normal due to unreliable green energy

nobody9999 5y ago
>People don't want the new normal to be like in California and New York where rolling blackouts are the norm due to unreliable green energy Huh? I live in New York and we've never had "rolling blackouts." I can't speak to California, but in New York, no power failures due to "green energy" have ever happened here. The few (half a dozen in the past 55 years or so) significant power outages here in New York have been due to regional grid failures and local failures due to severe weather events and/or equipment failure[0][1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_in_New_York https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_in_New_York [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy#United_States Where, exactly, in New York are "rolling blackouts are the norm due to unreliable green energy"? Somehow, while living in New York for the last 50+ years, I missed that.
- bboylen 5y ago
  https://pix11.com/news/local-news/power-outages-new-york-new-jersey-june-30-2021/ https://pix11.com/news/local-news/power-outages-new-york-new... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/nyregion/nyc-energy-alert-heatwave.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/nyregion/nyc-energy-alert... I don't mean to blame green energy for the grid not being able to handle the recent heat wave. But I do blame the closing of the Indian Point Nuclear power plant. Nuclear is a fantastic source of carbon neutral energy but plants are being shut down in both New York and California, without alternative energy sources in place to pick up the slack
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    From your first link: >Con Edison urged customers across New York City and Westchester to conserve energy as much as possible, in an effort to avoid further outages due to equipment failure. I can't speak to California as I don't live there, but your original statement about rolling blackouts in New York was flat wrong. The recent issue in New York during the heat wave was about aging infrastructure and equipment failures, not "green energy" or the closure of Indian Point. That might change in the future, but your statement that New York experiences "rolling blackouts" is just false. In fact, there have never been rolling blackouts in New York. Ever. I wholeheartedly agree that nuclear should be part of the mix and that in the absence of viable grid energy storage, solar and wind energy can't provide base load[0] power generation.

nobody9999 5y ago

>People don't want the new normal to be like in California and New York where rolling blackouts are the norm due to unreliable green energy Huh? I live in New York and we've never had "rolling blackouts." I can't speak to California, but in New York, no power failures due to "green energy" have ever happened here. The few (half a dozen in the past 55 years or so) significant power outages here in New York have been due to regional grid failures and local failures due to severe weather events and/or equipment failure[0][1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_in_New_York https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_in_New_York [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy#United_States Where, exactly, in New York are "rolling blackouts are the norm due to unreliable green energy"? Somehow, while living in New York for the last 50+ years, I missed that.

bboylen 5y ago
https://pix11.com/news/local-news/power-outages-new-york-new-jersey-june-30-2021/ https://pix11.com/news/local-news/power-outages-new-york-new... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/nyregion/nyc-energy-alert-heatwave.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/nyregion/nyc-energy-alert... I don't mean to blame green energy for the grid not being able to handle the recent heat wave. But I do blame the closing of the Indian Point Nuclear power plant. Nuclear is a fantastic source of carbon neutral energy but plants are being shut down in both New York and California, without alternative energy sources in place to pick up the slack
- nobody9999 5y ago
  From your first link: >Con Edison urged customers across New York City and Westchester to conserve energy as much as possible, in an effort to avoid further outages due to equipment failure. I can't speak to California as I don't live there, but your original statement about rolling blackouts in New York was flat wrong. The recent issue in New York during the heat wave was about aging infrastructure and equipment failures, not "green energy" or the closure of Indian Point. That might change in the future, but your statement that New York experiences "rolling blackouts" is just false. In fact, there have never been rolling blackouts in New York. Ever. I wholeheartedly agree that nuclear should be part of the mix and that in the absence of viable grid energy storage, solar and wind energy can't provide base load[0] power generation.