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> I understand the US has done a ton of awful things I find it concerning that you simply brush aside the horrible mistakes the US has made in almost all the c

> I understand the US has done a ton of awful things I find it concerning that you simply brush aside the horrible mistakes the US has made in almost all the continents (except maybe EU). This bias makes it hard for the rest of us to consider you seriously. >but comparing the actions of a democratic country that promotes rule of law globally... No one appointed the US to be the world police. It doesn't need to promote it's flawed ideas of "rule" to rest of the world. The US on a basic level lacks the comprehension needed to understand a multipolar, multicultural world, and often ends us messing things for the worse in most of the cases. The mess in Afghanistan/Syria/Libya etc is just one of the recent examples.

atlasunshrugged 5y ago
What serious global power hasn't done awful things? Morality is a social construct and continually evolving. I'm not sure what you would want me to do that you would not consider 'brushing aside' - I certainly think many US actions have been horrendous. My comparison is what the situation would have been if there was another superpower (e.g. the Soviet Union post WWII or China now) or no superpower and I think the world would be less prosperous and more violent. Indeed, there is no way to appoint someone to be the global police officer, the U.S. took that upon themselves sometimes to the benefit, sometimes the detriment of the rest of the world and itself (as you can see by just how much pushback there is on both the right and the left in America about America's role in the world). I just don't agree that it's been net negative.
gedy 5y ago
> No one appointed the US to be the world police. It doesn't need to promote it's flawed ideas of "rule" to rest of the world I think you can blame Europe's colonial empires for that. As well as the two world wars started from European in-fighting that left the USA mostly unscathed.
pkaye 5y ago
> The mess in Afghanistan/Syria/Libya etc is just one of the recent examples. Isn't the Libya mess started by France?

atlasunshrugged 5y ago

What serious global power hasn't done awful things? Morality is a social construct and continually evolving. I'm not sure what you would want me to do that you would not consider 'brushing aside' - I certainly think many US actions have been horrendous. My comparison is what the situation would have been if there was another superpower (e.g. the Soviet Union post WWII or China now) or no superpower and I think the world would be less prosperous and more violent. Indeed, there is no way to appoint someone to be the global police officer, the U.S. took that upon themselves sometimes to the benefit, sometimes the detriment of the rest of the world and itself (as you can see by just how much pushback there is on both the right and the left in America about America's role in the world). I just don't agree that it's been net negative.

gedy 5y ago

> No one appointed the US to be the world police. It doesn't need to promote it's flawed ideas of "rule" to rest of the world I think you can blame Europe's colonial empires for that. As well as the two world wars started from European in-fighting that left the USA mostly unscathed.

pkaye 5y ago

> The mess in Afghanistan/Syria/Libya etc is just one of the recent examples. Isn't the Libya mess started by France?