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Your point is valid but it's a question of degree rather than category. The Uyghur camps are about as evil as you can get, no question, but how much cumulative
by post_below 5y ago
Your point is valid but it's a question of degree rather than category. The Uyghur camps are about as evil as you can get, no question, but how much cumulative death and suffering has been caused by decades of destabilizing, bombing and invading the middle east? As just one example.
From an outside perspective, no one is buying the US propaganda around the oil wars any more than people are buying Chinese propaganda about their camps.
China being arguably worse doesn't evict the US from the category of destructive superpowers.
I think there's value in being honest about that.
- atlasunshrugged 5y agoI have no argument in favor of the war on terror, it was based on a false premise and a total moral failure. I don't think any Americans buy the propaganda around it either. I just disagree as to whether the US is truly a 'destructive superpower' - I personally believe that the country has been a net good for the world, even if sometimes its actions had negative consequences. Under American leadership post WWII the world has gotten richer, lives longer, and has fewer conflicts as a whole. Would this have happened without US leadership and instead under Soviet rule? Maybe, but I'm pretty skeptical.
- pjmlp 5y agoExcept for the poor souls killed thanks to US weapons, or taken into planes and interrogated in unknown locations, imprisioned without trial for years and then dropped again into a random location. Very good example to look for, indeed.
- _-david-_ 5y agoEvery country has done immoral things. Nobody is denying that. What we are saying is the US is leagues above China. Any bad action done by the US has a similar action by China. Bombings, wars, false arrests, etc. The difference is the US is trying to move on and better itself while China is continuing with this behavior.