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Why has the attribution suddenly changed this tournament? Edit: I just watched the clip you linked - are you saying that was an own goal because the goalkeeper

Why has the attribution suddenly changed this tournament? Edit: I just watched the clip you linked - are you saying that was an own goal because the goalkeeper touched it? That’s just a fumbling attempt at a save. That sort of thing has never been considered an own goal, and wouldn’t be in the current tournament either.

youngNed 5y ago
No. Despite not being recognised as such by FIFA, this is clearly an own goal. Even at the time people were surpised by FIFAs decision "It is hard to define the reasoning behind Fifa's decision to award England's opening goal to Rio Ferdinand since he headed David Beckham's corner away from the net before Thomas Sorensen fumbled the ball back over the line. That was an own-goal and no argument." Source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jun/17/worldcupfootball2002.sport2 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jun/17/worldcupfoo... "Beckham whipped one of his best crosses towards a leaping Ferdinand, whose header was fumbled by Sorensen for an own goal." Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/matches_wallchart/denmark_v_england/default.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/matches_wallcha... "The goal is clearly a Sørensen own goal but despite the availability of TV replays, FIFA officially credit the goal to Rio Ferdinand." Source: https://www.englandstats.com/matches.php?mid=794 https://www.englandstats.com/matches.php?mid=794
- playpause 5y ago
  I stand corrected. The header looked like it was towards the goal the first time I watched it.
michaelt 5y ago
Compared to 2002 there's now much more high-quality, high-speed video being recorded - and soccer authorities recently started using VAR (Video Assistant Referee). Soccer was slow to adopt instant replays; IIRC the official reason for this was the sport's governing bodies didn't want to widen the chasm between the top leagues and the grass roots game.

youngNed 5y ago

No. Despite not being recognised as such by FIFA, this is clearly an own goal. Even at the time people were surpised by FIFAs decision "It is hard to define the reasoning behind Fifa's decision to award England's opening goal to Rio Ferdinand since he headed David Beckham's corner away from the net before Thomas Sorensen fumbled the ball back over the line. That was an own-goal and no argument." Source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jun/17/worldcupfootball2002.sport2 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jun/17/worldcupfoo... "Beckham whipped one of his best crosses towards a leaping Ferdinand, whose header was fumbled by Sorensen for an own goal." Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/matches_wallchart/denmark_v_england/default.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/matches_wallcha... "The goal is clearly a Sørensen own goal but despite the availability of TV replays, FIFA officially credit the goal to Rio Ferdinand." Source: https://www.englandstats.com/matches.php?mid=794 https://www.englandstats.com/matches.php?mid=794

playpause 5y ago
I stand corrected. The header looked like it was towards the goal the first time I watched it.

michaelt 5y ago

Compared to 2002 there's now much more high-quality, high-speed video being recorded - and soccer authorities recently started using VAR (Video Assistant Referee). Soccer was slow to adopt instant replays; IIRC the official reason for this was the sport's governing bodies didn't want to widen the chasm between the top leagues and the grass roots game.