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To be fair, their username does literally have the word troll in it. I wouldn't put much stock in their intellectual integrity.

hntroll1443 5y ago
You two are the ones without integrity. According to business as usual on earth, is it burning? No. If you don't like it that temperatures are in fact right in the middle of what the earth has been doing for billions of years, take it up with your therapist or something, but for god's sake, stop relentlessly pushing senseless fear.
- coldtea 5y ago
  La-la-la hands in the ears denial is conforting, but scientific consensus says otherwise: that the temperature rise we're facing is man caused. For starters it should be obvious, that just because something happens ocassionally through cause X, doesn't mean all of its instances happen by cause X. That is, the fact that the Earth has had (and will have) cycles of higher/lower temperatures doesn't mean that this particular stage is one of them, and not a man-made one. You know, same way thousands of people day every day from natural causes, but a body found with two bullets on their head is not just a regular natural death. Second, even if the climate heating was part of some "natural" cycle, it would still be a huge problem for humanity. It would only be "business as usual" for Earth, which doesn't care if we live or die, have food or not, sustain our cities, etc. For us, it would be a huge disaster (and in many areas it already is). So it would still need us to think some way out of it -- whether man made or natural. So, I'm not sure where your nonchalant vibe comes from, even if (against consensus, but having cherry picked some opposing voices, which are a dime a dozen in every field) you think there's no human-made climate change. Earth was also mostly molten lava billions of years ago, but that doesn't mean we would be OK with it getting like that again. Again, sure denial is comforting. One can go on dreaming. Heck, they can even eventually suffer the consequences themselves, without still acknowledging that there's an issue.
  - redis_mlc 5y ago
    Ok smart-ass, what are you going to do about it except shame people who state the obvious, which is that we literally don't have to do anything, and nobody has a plan anyway? Exactly nothing, right? The denial I mainly see is people like you waiting for somebody else to fix our climate, all the while furiously virtue signalling.

hntroll1443 5y ago

You two are the ones without integrity. According to business as usual on earth, is it burning? No. If you don't like it that temperatures are in fact right in the middle of what the earth has been doing for billions of years, take it up with your therapist or something, but for god's sake, stop relentlessly pushing senseless fear.

coldtea 5y ago
La-la-la hands in the ears denial is conforting, but scientific consensus says otherwise: that the temperature rise we're facing is man caused. For starters it should be obvious, that just because something happens ocassionally through cause X, doesn't mean all of its instances happen by cause X. That is, the fact that the Earth has had (and will have) cycles of higher/lower temperatures doesn't mean that this particular stage is one of them, and not a man-made one. You know, same way thousands of people day every day from natural causes, but a body found with two bullets on their head is not just a regular natural death. Second, even if the climate heating was part of some "natural" cycle, it would still be a huge problem for humanity. It would only be "business as usual" for Earth, which doesn't care if we live or die, have food or not, sustain our cities, etc. For us, it would be a huge disaster (and in many areas it already is). So it would still need us to think some way out of it -- whether man made or natural. So, I'm not sure where your nonchalant vibe comes from, even if (against consensus, but having cherry picked some opposing voices, which are a dime a dozen in every field) you think there's no human-made climate change. Earth was also mostly molten lava billions of years ago, but that doesn't mean we would be OK with it getting like that again. Again, sure denial is comforting. One can go on dreaming. Heck, they can even eventually suffer the consequences themselves, without still acknowledging that there's an issue.
- redis_mlc 5y ago
  Ok smart-ass, what are you going to do about it except shame people who state the obvious, which is that we literally don't have to do anything, and nobody has a plan anyway? Exactly nothing, right? The denial I mainly see is people like you waiting for somebody else to fix our climate, all the while furiously virtue signalling.