Ogg can often achieve transparency at lower bitrates than mp3, but we're talking <128 kbits here. Above that, and certainly at 160+ very few people can tell the

Ogg can often achieve transparency at lower bitrates than mp3, but we're talking <128 kbits here. Above that, and certainly at 160+ very few people can tell the difference, and even then only with careful, focused A/B scrutiny.