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> The expensive places that are dense also have lots of high-paying jobs, Yes, this is true of some of the places, but definitely not all of them. Just look at
by maxsilver 5y ago
> The expensive places that are dense also have lots of high-paying jobs,
Yes, this is true of some of the places, but definitely not all of them. Just look at most of the Midwest for an abundance of density-driven explosion in cost-of-living, but without any abundance of "high-paying jobs" to match.
I get that most of Hacker News is experienced with major cities (NYC, Boston, DC, Phily, SF, LA, Seattle, Portland, etc). And so it's tempting to tie housing costs to the specifics of that cities economy. But that's not the scary part. The scary part is looking at cities with "boring"/"normal" economies, and seeing the exact same thing happening to CoL over there.
Seattle can at least point to Amazon and say, "see, look, any random fresh grad can be making over $120k/yr at Amazon HQ!" to justify their insane housing prices. Indianapolis, Cincinatti, Louisville, and many more are increasingly getting up to similar prices, without any similar wages to justify it.
This article, for example, is about Ketchum Idaho. The person interviewed works two jobs to make $60k/yr and still can't find housing, because (according to Zillow, anyway) today's average sale price is over half-a-million dollars each!. Surely, Ketchum did not suddenly get an abundance of "high-paying jobs" to justify these prices. And Ketchum's total population has been basically flat for 20 years now, and today's estimate is still lower than their peak population from the year 2000, so there's no magic huge influx of new residents to point to to justify the prices either.
- bluGill 5y agoWhat does someone who isn't a college grad get in Seattle? Those are the people make $60k in this story.
- dnr 5y agoI want to understand what you're saying, but at first glance this is contradictory: housing prices are driven by density, and housing prices are increasing in Ketchum. But Ketchum didn't increase density, and neither did anywhere nearby as far as I can tell. So what is driving the increase there? I've visited Ketchum and think I have an idea, but I'd like to hear your explanation.