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As a non-resident of San Francisco, I have no dog in this fight, but it shows up on my Twitter feed regardless. I was amused by a recent exchange where one user
by stupidcar 5y ago
As a non-resident of San Francisco, I have no dog in this fight, but it shows up on my Twitter feed regardless. I was amused by a recent exchange where one user was complaining about the amount of human faeces on the sidewalk, and someone retorted that they'd lived in SF for 15 years and there'd always been human faeces on the sidewalk.
I don't know whether crime in SF has gotten worse or not, but as a resident of a city where people don't defecate on the sidewalk, it boggled my mind a little to see someone apparently advocating for the city on the basis that sidewalk defecation wasn't a new problem.
- eevilspock 5y agoIt boggles my mind that sidewalk defecation only matters as a measure of where one should move, rather than a measure of what is wrong with our culture and society that produces iPhones with the one hand and crushes so many people with the other.
- CyberRabbi 5y agoI don’t think this is a cultural issue, most other US cities don’t have the sidewalk defecation problems that SF has had / still has. The most simple explanation that fully explains what’s going on would be the policy of this specific city’s government.
- swiley 5y agoMost other states don't house the only two relevant mobile OS vendors either.
- CyberRabbi 5y agoHow does that cause sidewalk defecation problems in SF?
- silicon2401 5y agoComments like this are why SF is such a terrible place. Instead of having standards, the bar is lowered and lowered and goalposts are moved to avoid addressing the crime and other issues with the city.
- iammisc 5y agoBut most cities in the us do not have defecation on the sidewalks. Thus there is no need for mental shenanigans.
- chrisseaton 5y agoI think quite a lot of tech people really don’t have any understanding that most cities are not like this. I don’t get it because they travel for conferences. Do they never stop and think ‘huh I wonder why it’s different here…’
- phone8675309 5y agoThat would require that they consider that any place outside of SF was worth living in.
- testesttest 5y agoThey do understand. They don't care. SF is a transient place for many. They stay while it is good and leave when it isn't. They never really get invested in the city.
- Analemma_ 5y agoThis is the exact opposite of my experience: it’s the techies who want to fix San Francisco and the longtime residents who shriek that nothing is wrong and how dare you even suggest we need to change anything you racist.
- refurb 5y agoAs a resident of SF, one thing that resonated with me - SF is a gold rush town, not a whole lot different than 1849. People come to SF hoping to strike it rich or just be a little weird and left alone, and with that comes a certain mentality. The city is rough, a little lawless and that still true today. People like the “roughness”. That’s not saying it hasn’t gotten worse in the last year or two. But it’s never been shiny and clean.