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Are you saying 8 yr olds play games with the camera pointed at their penis? A headshot of a topless child is not scandalous. There are issues here, but this is

Are you saying 8 yr olds play games with the camera pointed at their penis? A headshot of a topless child is not scandalous. There are issues here, but this isn't it.

sidlls 5y ago
You think a military dictatorship like China isn't going to (mis)use such images to help maintain control? I'd recommend reading some 1984. China is a genocidal, military dictatorship. I wouldn't be surprised if they force a hot war out of the cold one currently brewing.
nirui 5y ago
Problem is, you have no idea what people, not just kid would accidentally point their camera at. And you couple that with lay down position and a touch screen. No need to mention capture imagery of a child (which the system would totally do, and kids will give it a try believe or not) without consent from their parent alone is problematic regardless it's accidental or not. And above all, that system is useless to begin with. Think about following questions: 1) When do you verify? Before, during or after the game? 2) Do you have to verify at the spot at night? 3) How often do you re-verify? BTW, there is an anti game addiction system already in place in China, which is based on photo ID (Resident ID card) verification. In my opinion, the system is doing well enough already even for today's kids. If Tencent really care the addiction that much, maybe they should just shutdown the game server during the night.
godelski 5y ago
Cameras capture more than heads. A topless child very well can be scandalous, especially if they are female. And it is only going to capture the head if the person is sitting in a normal position in front of their computer. If it scans outside of that setting, then you can capture their whole room. You're assuming that the system works perfectly. You're on Hacker News! We have articles every day of major companies being hacked and/or having systems not work as expected and failing in grandiose ways. Now add minors into that situation. Pictures on minors. If that doesn't make you feel uncomfortable then I'm uncomfortable. Putting more cameras in kids rooms are not doing anything to protect them (especially when those cameras are connected to the internet). It just makes child exploitation easier.

Are you saying 8 yr olds play games with the camera pointed at their penis? A headshot of a topless child is not scandalous. There are issues here, but this isn't it.

sidlls 5y ago

You think a military dictatorship like China isn't going to (mis)use such images to help maintain control? I'd recommend reading some 1984. China is a genocidal, military dictatorship. I wouldn't be surprised if they force a hot war out of the cold one currently brewing.

nirui 5y ago

Problem is, you have no idea what people, not just kid would accidentally point their camera at. And you couple that with lay down position and a touch screen. No need to mention capture imagery of a child (which the system would totally do, and kids will give it a try believe or not) without consent from their parent alone is problematic regardless it's accidental or not. And above all, that system is useless to begin with. Think about following questions: 1) When do you verify? Before, during or after the game? 2) Do you have to verify at the spot at night? 3) How often do you re-verify? BTW, there is an anti game addiction system already in place in China, which is based on photo ID (Resident ID card) verification. In my opinion, the system is doing well enough already even for today's kids. If Tencent really care the addiction that much, maybe they should just shutdown the game server during the night.

godelski 5y ago

Cameras capture more than heads. A topless child very well can be scandalous, especially if they are female. And it is only going to capture the head if the person is sitting in a normal position in front of their computer. If it scans outside of that setting, then you can capture their whole room. You're assuming that the system works perfectly. You're on Hacker News! We have articles every day of major companies being hacked and/or having systems not work as expected and failing in grandiose ways. Now add minors into that situation. Pictures on minors. If that doesn't make you feel uncomfortable then I'm uncomfortable. Putting more cameras in kids rooms are not doing anything to protect them (especially when those cameras are connected to the internet). It just makes child exploitation easier.