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I’m running a PreSonus StudioLive 16.4.2 (1st gen) and am stuck on 10.13.6 because I’m pretty sure they didn’t release drivers for 10.14+. It’s a FireWire 400 d

I’m running a PreSonus StudioLive 16.4.2 (1st gen) and am stuck on 10.13.6 because I’m pretty sure they didn’t release drivers for 10.14+. It’s a FireWire 400 device. I absolutely love it but because of it, I’m probably never going to upgrade my studio mac. I do wonder if it’s a class a compliant device and works without drives (I think I read somewhere that it might work) but I legitimately use the software that comes with it for controlling the mixer and saving patches and things so I’m not too enthused by it. The new Bitwig 4 even dropped support for 10.13 which was a bit unexpected as it supports Windows 7. Old gear getting dropped because of driver issues is really annoying, but I have come to terms with it. All music produces and studios deal with it. Some mixing rooms are on 20 year old hardware and that’s just how it is.

tomduncalf 5y ago
> Old gear getting dropped because of driver issues is really annoying, but I have come to terms with it. Yeah, certainly on macOS. Not much you can do about it sadly!
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immmmmm 5y ago
i highly recommend RME if long term driver support is a priority. i play live act and my UCX has been 100% reliable so far.
IndySun 5y ago
>and am stuck on 10.13.6 We have multiple Apple hardware based music systems 75% of which are deliberately still, not stuck, on 10.13.6.. We also have a few M1s. After decades of continual forced disconnects/'upgrades' of software/hardware compatibility we drew a line at 10.13.6 and have been very happy and have not missed a single so-called new feature, both from Mac OS or any DAW we use. We are, however, ready to move to Apple silicon, based on our early assessments.
- spicybright 5y ago
  Upgrades suck, but at least MacOS leaves you alone if you choose not to update your OS. Windows shoves it down your throat... Do you have a blog or anything with write ups about your equipment? Would be very interested in hearing about your silicon upgrades once you get there.
  - IndySun 5y ago
    >Do you have a blog or anything with write ups about your equipment? Would be very interested in hearing about your silicon upgrades once you get there. No blog. We don't even have a website as work has only ever arrived by word of mouth. I am not enamoured by studio blogs, generally. There's too much noise out there without my clumsy typehand adding to it. I keep abreast of technology and audio by furiously skimming. The change over is not set in stone. I have concerns about the privacy claims made by Apple for the sake of my clients, but so far we've had little issue with our Air or Mini.
    - spicybright 5y ago
      I'm more interested in your tech upgrades and what snags you hit, I suppose on an IT level.

tomduncalf 5y ago

> Old gear getting dropped because of driver issues is really annoying, but I have come to terms with it. Yeah, certainly on macOS. Not much you can do about it sadly!

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immmmmm 5y ago

i highly recommend RME if long term driver support is a priority. i play live act and my UCX has been 100% reliable so far.

IndySun 5y ago

>and am stuck on 10.13.6 We have multiple Apple hardware based music systems 75% of which are deliberately still, not stuck, on 10.13.6.. We also have a few M1s. After decades of continual forced disconnects/'upgrades' of software/hardware compatibility we drew a line at 10.13.6 and have been very happy and have not missed a single so-called new feature, both from Mac OS or any DAW we use. We are, however, ready to move to Apple silicon, based on our early assessments.

spicybright 5y ago
Upgrades suck, but at least MacOS leaves you alone if you choose not to update your OS. Windows shoves it down your throat... Do you have a blog or anything with write ups about your equipment? Would be very interested in hearing about your silicon upgrades once you get there.
- IndySun 5y ago
  >Do you have a blog or anything with write ups about your equipment? Would be very interested in hearing about your silicon upgrades once you get there. No blog. We don't even have a website as work has only ever arrived by word of mouth. I am not enamoured by studio blogs, generally. There's too much noise out there without my clumsy typehand adding to it. I keep abreast of technology and audio by furiously skimming. The change over is not set in stone. I have concerns about the privacy claims made by Apple for the sake of my clients, but so far we've had little issue with our Air or Mini.
  - spicybright 5y ago
    I'm more interested in your tech upgrades and what snags you hit, I suppose on an IT level.