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Do you know what the euphemistic justification was? “Cleanliness”? I cannot think of one that is not absurd to even the dimmest ethno-nationalist of my imaginat

by w0de0 5y ago

Do you know what the euphemistic justification was? “Cleanliness”? I cannot think of one that is not absurd to even the dimmest ethno-nationalist of my imagination.

bellyfullofbac 5y ago
If I had to guess they'd just say the beard is a symbol of separatism, therefore if you refuse to shave then we might consider you to be sympathetic to the separatist movement, you wouldn't want us to think that, would you? It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists...
- teakettle42 5y ago
  > It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists... Er, fascists? We're talking about the CCP here -- these are communists.
  - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
    Geez, serves me right for using an "-ist" word and getting an anal retentive "They're a different sort of '-ist'" comment. The Wikipedia definition "Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy" seems to tick all the boxes in the case of China, although I don't know if they fit the definition "far right" (too lazy to see if they tick those other boxes). The problem with "-ist" and "-ism" words is everyone has their own definition what this means. Bernie Sanders can call himself a socialist that thinks the rich should be taxed more, and some dumbass will think he hates Jews because the Nazi party also has the word "Socialism" in it. Also, if you want to say "They're communists because that word is in their party name", then the Democratic People's Republic of (North) Korea must be a great place to live, since they're democratic, and belong to the people!
    - justshowpost 5y ago
      Wokepedia is completely bogus on such subjects because it is far-left and even lists anti-communism as very first value of the Right, LOL. Also, that moderate left National Sozialist Worker Party is indeed socialist and pro working class. Communism is based on nice sounding theories; Nazism isn’t. It’s based on heinous sounding theories. Intellectuals in general – including, of course, the intellectuals who write history – are seduced by words – so much so, that they deem actions as less significant than words. For that reason, they haven’t focused nearly as much attention on the horrific actions of communists as they have on the horrific actions of the Nazis. They dismiss the evils of communists as perversions of “true communism.” But they regard Nazi atrocities (correctly) as the logical and inevitable results of Nazism. ... while nointellecuals are just silently downvoting ...

by w0de0 5y ago

Do you know what the euphemistic justification was? “Cleanliness”? I cannot think of one that is not absurd to even the dimmest ethno-nationalist of my imagination.

bellyfullofbac 5y ago

If I had to guess they'd just say the beard is a symbol of separatism, therefore if you refuse to shave then we might consider you to be sympathetic to the separatist movement, you wouldn't want us to think that, would you? It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists...

teakettle42 5y ago
> It's circular logic but probably good enough for the fascists... Er, fascists? We're talking about the CCP here -- these are communists.
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  Geez, serves me right for using an "-ist" word and getting an anal retentive "They're a different sort of '-ist'" comment. The Wikipedia definition "Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy" seems to tick all the boxes in the case of China, although I don't know if they fit the definition "far right" (too lazy to see if they tick those other boxes). The problem with "-ist" and "-ism" words is everyone has their own definition what this means. Bernie Sanders can call himself a socialist that thinks the rich should be taxed more, and some dumbass will think he hates Jews because the Nazi party also has the word "Socialism" in it. Also, if you want to say "They're communists because that word is in their party name", then the Democratic People's Republic of (North) Korea must be a great place to live, since they're democratic, and belong to the people!
  - justshowpost 5y ago
    Wokepedia is completely bogus on such subjects because it is far-left and even lists anti-communism as very first value of the Right, LOL. Also, that moderate left National Sozialist Worker Party is indeed socialist and pro working class. Communism is based on nice sounding theories; Nazism isn’t. It’s based on heinous sounding theories. Intellectuals in general – including, of course, the intellectuals who write history – are seduced by words – so much so, that they deem actions as less significant than words. For that reason, they haven’t focused nearly as much attention on the horrific actions of communists as they have on the horrific actions of the Nazis. They dismiss the evils of communists as perversions of “true communism.” But they regard Nazi atrocities (correctly) as the logical and inevitable results of Nazism. ... while nointellecuals are just silently downvoting ...