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The planting of evidence story sounds unconvincing. There hasn't been any reason given who would have planted and for what reason. Some of the people assuming h

The planting of evidence story sounds unconvincing. There hasn't been any reason given who would have planted and for what reason. Some of the people assuming here it as a state sponsored stuff; but there is no such thing mentioned by the defendant. They are just trying to disprove the authenticity of electronic documents found on the computer of the accused. The FIR was lodged by state police on January 8 2018 on behalf of local people complaining about the so called activist because of the violence that took place after provocative speech on 31dec. The case is then taken up by federal agency (NIA) because of the accused people's linkage found with a band militant organization. NIA states that there are sufficient oral evidence in addition to the electronic evidence which this report is trying to disprove (which itself is subject to verification in the court) Read about one of the activists accused here https://www.firstpost.com/india/portrait-of-an-old-man-as-a-martyr-what-left-liberal-media-wont-tell-you-about-stan-swamy-9781821.html https://www.firstpost.com/india/portrait-of-an-old-man-as-a-...

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rualca 5y ago
> The planting of evidence story sounds unconvincing. There hasn't been any reason given who would have planted and for what reason. What? You honestly believe that trying to incriminate activists by planting fake evidence of assassination plots and associations with maoist groups is unconvincing and not a valid reason? I mean, not so long ago India persecuted an activist who helped Greta Thunberg to the extent of arresting and accusing her of sedition just because the girl helped edit an online document that Greta Thunberg promoted. https://www.reuters.com/article/india-farmers-protests-idUSKBN2AF0HK https://www.reuters.com/article/india-farmers-protests-idUSK... > They are just trying to disprove the authenticity of electronic documents found on the computer of the accused. There was no "trying". They found evidence that emails with malware were targeted at the accused activists, and they found evidence that said malware was used to plant evidence. Also, the "smoking gun" files were sloppily planted. I mean, the article states that incriminating docs were dropped on the windows folder without even having metadata showing they were ever accessed or opened in the computer.
- TriNetra 5y ago
  > I mean, not so long ago India persecuted an activist who helped Greta Thunberg to the extent of arresting and accusing her of sedition just because the girl helped edit an online document that Greta Thunberg promoted. It wasn't just another document; it was linked with the planning and execution of violence that happened on 26 January Republic day in the capital (New Delhi) wherein the national symbols like Red Fort were invaded and damaged. Obviously police acted on the toolkit document and if not enough evidence were found, she'll be out of the trouble. btw, while working on the document her WhatsApp messages with Gretta also showed that she knew that she could get into trouble. >> Disha (9:35 pm): Ok can you not tweet the toolkit at all..can we just not say anything at all for a while? I am gonna talk to lawyers. I am sorry but our names are on it and we can literally get UAPA against us. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/do-not-tweet-toolkit-our-names-on-it-disha-ravi-whatsapp-chat-greta-thunberg-uapa-1769725-2021-02-16 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/do-not-tweet-toolkit-o... > There was no "trying". They found evidence that emails with malware were targeted at the accused activists, and they found evidence that said malware was used to plant evidence. Whatever they've found needs to be proven in court before it can be considered as evidence. Until then, as per the rule of law, it's just an opinion of the defendant.
  - rualca 5y ago
    > It wasn't just another document; it was linked with the planning and execution of violence (...) No, not really. That's a very convenient story but an outright fabrication. Greta Thunber's document clearly did not laid out any plot. Greta's doc provide suggestions on how to protest the upcoming agriculture reform law, and the persecuted activist was jailed for editing two lines. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56068522 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56068522 Moreover, the activist was arrested and accused of "wage economic, social, cultural and regional war against India", which quite clearly screams of the doingd of a fascist regime dedicated to oppress their citizens if they propose any form of criticism of the ruling regime. > btw, while working on the document her WhatsApp messages with Gretta also showed that she knew that she could get into trouble. The lack of self-awareness and desperation in your comment is very telling. I mean, of course she was concerned she could be persecuted: India's ruling regime is so oppressive that goes to the extent of charging people who edit two lines of a doc with sedition and waging war on India.

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rualca 5y ago

> The planting of evidence story sounds unconvincing. There hasn't been any reason given who would have planted and for what reason. What? You honestly believe that trying to incriminate activists by planting fake evidence of assassination plots and associations with maoist groups is unconvincing and not a valid reason? I mean, not so long ago India persecuted an activist who helped Greta Thunberg to the extent of arresting and accusing her of sedition just because the girl helped edit an online document that Greta Thunberg promoted. https://www.reuters.com/article/india-farmers-protests-idUSKBN2AF0HK https://www.reuters.com/article/india-farmers-protests-idUSK... > They are just trying to disprove the authenticity of electronic documents found on the computer of the accused. There was no "trying". They found evidence that emails with malware were targeted at the accused activists, and they found evidence that said malware was used to plant evidence. Also, the "smoking gun" files were sloppily planted. I mean, the article states that incriminating docs were dropped on the windows folder without even having metadata showing they were ever accessed or opened in the computer.

TriNetra 5y ago
> I mean, not so long ago India persecuted an activist who helped Greta Thunberg to the extent of arresting and accusing her of sedition just because the girl helped edit an online document that Greta Thunberg promoted. It wasn't just another document; it was linked with the planning and execution of violence that happened on 26 January Republic day in the capital (New Delhi) wherein the national symbols like Red Fort were invaded and damaged. Obviously police acted on the toolkit document and if not enough evidence were found, she'll be out of the trouble. btw, while working on the document her WhatsApp messages with Gretta also showed that she knew that she could get into trouble. >> Disha (9:35 pm): Ok can you not tweet the toolkit at all..can we just not say anything at all for a while? I am gonna talk to lawyers. I am sorry but our names are on it and we can literally get UAPA against us. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/do-not-tweet-toolkit-our-names-on-it-disha-ravi-whatsapp-chat-greta-thunberg-uapa-1769725-2021-02-16 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/do-not-tweet-toolkit-o... > There was no "trying". They found evidence that emails with malware were targeted at the accused activists, and they found evidence that said malware was used to plant evidence. Whatever they've found needs to be proven in court before it can be considered as evidence. Until then, as per the rule of law, it's just an opinion of the defendant.
- rualca 5y ago
  > It wasn't just another document; it was linked with the planning and execution of violence (...) No, not really. That's a very convenient story but an outright fabrication. Greta Thunber's document clearly did not laid out any plot. Greta's doc provide suggestions on how to protest the upcoming agriculture reform law, and the persecuted activist was jailed for editing two lines. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56068522 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56068522 Moreover, the activist was arrested and accused of "wage economic, social, cultural and regional war against India", which quite clearly screams of the doingd of a fascist regime dedicated to oppress their citizens if they propose any form of criticism of the ruling regime. > btw, while working on the document her WhatsApp messages with Gretta also showed that she knew that she could get into trouble. The lack of self-awareness and desperation in your comment is very telling. I mean, of course she was concerned she could be persecuted: India's ruling regime is so oppressive that goes to the extent of charging people who edit two lines of a doc with sedition and waging war on India.