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> slow acceptance of gay rights Huh? Many US states legalized same-sex marriage before other Western democracies like France, New Zealand, Germany, etc. What e
by buzzert 5y ago
> slow acceptance of gay rights
Huh? Many US states legalized same-sex marriage before other Western democracies like France, New Zealand, Germany, etc. What exactly was slow?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage
- timoth3y 5y agoFrom the link you provided and countries you mentioned, the year when same-sex marriage was legalized: France: 2013 New Zealand: 2013 United States: 2015 Germany: 2017 Other European nations began legalization as early as 2001. Individual states, provinces, and cities might have acted sooner, but lets compare apples to apples.
- jandrewrogers 5y agoThe ultimate authority for marriage law in the US is the individual States, the Federal government has no jurisdiction so the poster you are responding to was comparing apples to apples for all practical purposes. An inordinate number of laws in the US are de facto “national” only because all States recognize similar laws, not because there is actually a national law. The Federal government doesn’t have the authority to enact most laws. It is the same reason the US does not have a national ID, why corporations are solely creatures of individual States, and why public health policy is decided by States (see: COVID).
- buzzert 5y agoNew Zealand (Population: 4.8 million): 2013 New York (Population: 8.49 million): 2011 With populations like that, I think that is comparing apples to apples.
- jdavis703 5y agoIt took decades of advocacy for marriage to be legalized. Even if this was faster than other western democracies, it still seems fair to criticize the process as slow.
- jon_richards 5y agohttps://xkcd.com/1431/ https://xkcd.com/1431/