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It seems like legitimate questions from an outsider to me. As an outsider from both kernel and rust development myself, I also had the same questions going thro

by aflag 5y ago

It seems like legitimate questions from an outsider to me. As an outsider from both kernel and rust development myself, I also had the same questions going through my head. Specially given Linus' previous opinions in using other languages for kernel development. That, allied with how eagerly rust is hyped, does make one wonder how much is self-promotion and how much is actually the linux kernel community as a whole embracing the endevour (not just the subset of kernel developers who also happen to really like rust). I feel like they are honest questions. Someone more in touch with the kernel community should be able to answer them.

jolux 5y ago
Linus’ objection to C++, if you boil it down, is that it adds a lot of complexity without fixing what’s fundamentally broken about C: memory safety. Rust’s memory model is much safer than C’s, and it is a significantly simpler language than C++ as well.
- morty_s 5y ago
  When I think about Linus’ lack of objection to Rust I immediately think about his vocal disdain for C++ When I learned rust I thought it felt more C-like than C++ to be honest. Nowadays I’m pretty happy to be in this c to rust to c loop. I think you’re exactly right about c++ not offering much benefit to someone like Linus. It’s much simpler than c++. Rust has also informed the way I write C (granted, I’ve also gained more experience along the way, but rust forced me to have more discipline for sure).
xmzx 5y ago
You can't just make up stuff and go with it, you need to be a little more complete with your analysis. Especially worded the way the other comment was and your comment is, you seem to think there is some sort of confusion because you're lumping in one programming language with another and essentially saying, I don't see the difference therefore something sinister may be at play. Your ignorance is not an excuse. Either know what you're talking about or ask questions without your very, very leading premises.

by aflag 5y ago

jolux 5y ago

Linus’ objection to C++, if you boil it down, is that it adds a lot of complexity without fixing what’s fundamentally broken about C: memory safety. Rust’s memory model is much safer than C’s, and it is a significantly simpler language than C++ as well.

morty_s 5y ago
When I think about Linus’ lack of objection to Rust I immediately think about his vocal disdain for C++ When I learned rust I thought it felt more C-like than C++ to be honest. Nowadays I’m pretty happy to be in this c to rust to c loop. I think you’re exactly right about c++ not offering much benefit to someone like Linus. It’s much simpler than c++. Rust has also informed the way I write C (granted, I’ve also gained more experience along the way, but rust forced me to have more discipline for sure).

xmzx 5y ago

You can't just make up stuff and go with it, you need to be a little more complete with your analysis. Especially worded the way the other comment was and your comment is, you seem to think there is some sort of confusion because you're lumping in one programming language with another and essentially saying, I don't see the difference therefore something sinister may be at play. Your ignorance is not an excuse. Either know what you're talking about or ask questions without your very, very leading premises.