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I mean, it's not like it's bad to daydream the "what if", then work backwards to see if it's even possible in the real world... but what irks me is how anyone i

I mean, it's not like it's bad to daydream the "what if", then work backwards to see if it's even possible in the real world... but what irks me is how anyone imagines any form of gov, society, or industry just needs a Thanos snap to fix them. Like Jesus Christ, watch an overview video that explains the difficulty of grocery store logistics. That's a sliver of the difficulty to run a city, state, province, country or the goddamn planet. To imagine a writer or two, with zero political, business or logistics background "figured it out"... I won't use the r word only because that insults the mentally handicapped with how stupid this line of thinking is. We're talking about the same people who get basic physics and electronics wrong on their show all the time. "Its okay, we figured out how to create the perfect society in our fictional tv show." And people take it seriously... these same folks should watch Vikings and vote for that society to be implemented. I'd enjoy that.

BitwiseFool 5y ago
Totally agree. I do find this illuminating, though, because if someone fundamentally believes problems are caused by a lack of resources - or more specifically a lack of access to resources - then it makes perfect sense to them to think post-scarcity will be a paradise. They're looking at the problems in a fundamentally different way than you or I are.
- NoOneNew 5y ago
  A long time ago, when the whole reality tv thing was taking off, there were a lot of those rich wife of wherever shows. You want post-scarcity examples, check out them bitches. A coworker back then told me he thinks it has something to do with no real problems, thus they're bored. That boredom from real, actual problems, causes people to be... well, batshit crazy. 10+ years later, I see it repeatedly in real life. If you have no strenuous issues, you turn either crazy or a depressive lump. Humans need difficult goals. Making sure you have good livable conditions is an easy one, but obviously this shouldn't be insanely difficult either. I also believe that's why men at a certain age are perpetually doing home improvements. It fulfills that instinctual need to strive for better living conditions. I think other lofty goals are important too. But this is a massively huge topic beyond HN posts.
  - trashcan 5y ago
    > 22. If our society had no social problems at all, the <people> would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.

BitwiseFool 5y ago

Totally agree. I do find this illuminating, though, because if someone fundamentally believes problems are caused by a lack of resources - or more specifically a lack of access to resources - then it makes perfect sense to them to think post-scarcity will be a paradise. They're looking at the problems in a fundamentally different way than you or I are.

NoOneNew 5y ago
A long time ago, when the whole reality tv thing was taking off, there were a lot of those rich wife of wherever shows. You want post-scarcity examples, check out them bitches. A coworker back then told me he thinks it has something to do with no real problems, thus they're bored. That boredom from real, actual problems, causes people to be... well, batshit crazy. 10+ years later, I see it repeatedly in real life. If you have no strenuous issues, you turn either crazy or a depressive lump. Humans need difficult goals. Making sure you have good livable conditions is an easy one, but obviously this shouldn't be insanely difficult either. I also believe that's why men at a certain age are perpetually doing home improvements. It fulfills that instinctual need to strive for better living conditions. I think other lofty goals are important too. But this is a massively huge topic beyond HN posts.
- trashcan 5y ago
  > 22. If our society had no social problems at all, the <people> would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.