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Do you normally have the ability to hide your address from your ISP? As the first owner of my house, I needed to have them physically come out to run a new line

Do you normally have the ability to hide your address from your ISP? As the first owner of my house, I needed to have them physically come out to run a new line that didn't exist before, and there is obviously no way to have a cable run to your house without telling the cable provider where your house is.

sneak 5y ago
My terrestrial ISP fails open on identity check/verification, so I was able to give them a brand new alias and answer "none of the above" to all of the public records verification questions, and simply run 100% of the traffic out of the pipe over a VPN via a VPN router. They see nothing but ciphertext to a datacenter. This did require their largest-tier service deposit due to null credit history, but such is life. To answer your question directly, no, they have the service address. But with no other data to link the service address to me, this is okay. With starlink I am hoping to upgrade the privacy setup to +/-2km location fuzziness. I don't think I'll ever use an ISP without 100% of the last mile traffic being VPN'd ever again.
- nonameiguess 5y ago
  How the heck did you manage to purchase the service anonymously? I had trouble even putting in service requests at first because my wife set up the account and didn't add me, so when I called, they wouldn't even talk to me because I couldn't prove I was the account owner. How do they bill you without knowing who you are?
  - sneak 5y ago
    Send me an email and I'll be happy to share specifics.
  - KirillPanov 5y ago
    CenturyLink's DSL signup process pushes you towards the "simple credit check" option, but if you refuse enough times they let you sign up for prepaid and do absolutely zero validation of any of the information you supply. You can also sign up for a "business prepaid" account and they won't even ask for your name. They also don't ask what type of entity the business is, so there's nothing wrong with just making up a Doing Business As off the top of your head. Frankly, this is how it ought to be. My personal data are none of their business.
- Robotbeat 5y ago
  I doubt this will work too well with Starlink in particular. The satellite handoff has to be pretty precise. Even without GPS, the antenna (on one side or the other) can probably measure your location within a kilometer or two, and as the satellites improve (larger satellite-side phased arrays), that will shrink.
viktorcode 5y ago
You have the ability to hide your traffic so the point is moot.

sneak 5y ago

My terrestrial ISP fails open on identity check/verification, so I was able to give them a brand new alias and answer "none of the above" to all of the public records verification questions, and simply run 100% of the traffic out of the pipe over a VPN via a VPN router. They see nothing but ciphertext to a datacenter. This did require their largest-tier service deposit due to null credit history, but such is life. To answer your question directly, no, they have the service address. But with no other data to link the service address to me, this is okay. With starlink I am hoping to upgrade the privacy setup to +/-2km location fuzziness. I don't think I'll ever use an ISP without 100% of the last mile traffic being VPN'd ever again.

nonameiguess 5y ago
How the heck did you manage to purchase the service anonymously? I had trouble even putting in service requests at first because my wife set up the account and didn't add me, so when I called, they wouldn't even talk to me because I couldn't prove I was the account owner. How do they bill you without knowing who you are?
- sneak 5y ago
  Send me an email and I'll be happy to share specifics.
- KirillPanov 5y ago
  CenturyLink's DSL signup process pushes you towards the "simple credit check" option, but if you refuse enough times they let you sign up for prepaid and do absolutely zero validation of any of the information you supply. You can also sign up for a "business prepaid" account and they won't even ask for your name. They also don't ask what type of entity the business is, so there's nothing wrong with just making up a Doing Business As off the top of your head. Frankly, this is how it ought to be. My personal data are none of their business.
Robotbeat 5y ago
I doubt this will work too well with Starlink in particular. The satellite handoff has to be pretty precise. Even without GPS, the antenna (on one side or the other) can probably measure your location within a kilometer or two, and as the satellites improve (larger satellite-side phased arrays), that will shrink.

viktorcode 5y ago

You have the ability to hide your traffic so the point is moot.