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Several problems with your post: First, it is necessary to state my assumption, clearly. Especially when it seems it was at least partly false. Good faith mean
by javajosh 5y ago
Several problems with your post:
First, it is necessary to state my assumption, clearly. Especially when it seems it was at least partly false. Good faith means that you're interested in learning, not winning. But the remaining points show your motive is winning, not learning.
Second, you argue against the straw-man that I think everyone shares my expectations. I don't, and in my experience this is precisely the kind of mistake someone wanting badly to "win" makes.
Third, you attack me personally by characterizing one of my statements as "going off the rails", and follow that up with your own statement that assumes you know what "people" will and will not listen to. Again, it's the rhetorical baggage of the sophist, not the reasoned debate I would prefer.
Go ahead and keep arguing that passive phone-home behavior in FOSS is fine and that arguing against it is actually harming the public in general, and their privacy in particular. I think it's a ridiculous argument on its face and I don't think the person making it is making it in good faith, so I am not going to discuss it further with you.
- Griffinsauce 5y agoYour "good faith" statement only exists to elevate yourself, it adds nothing to the discussion, neither does the rest of this personal attack. Stating someone's argument is "ridiculous on its face" shows that you're actually not trying for reasoned debate, you clearly haven't even given the point made a single thought. This is very much my point: it's absolutism that leads to aggressive lines of argument and yes, I believe this is harmful to the general public.
- jfrunyon 5y agoIf YOU don't want it, you can turn it off. That's the beauty of open-source. You are clearly trying to argue that they should not include any sort of telemetry - that everyone shares your expectations.