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Private sector pays over double the government. Why do you think the US government has so many problems with security? What security engineer worth his salt is

by 0xy 5y ago

Private sector pays over double the government. Why do you think the US government has so many problems with security? What security engineer worth his salt is going to accept half the pay to work for the government where things move at a snails pace?

mellosouls 5y ago
Not everybody is driven solely by money.
manquer 5y ago
Not every co moves at startup speeds. I have seen plenty of large companies move just as slow or slower. Problems of red tape are not limited to only government ,it is function of most large organizations Plenty of security engineers are constantly frustrated at the lack of security focus in corporate sector, investments are only made when it affects revenue . Even after all the ransomware companies some times do the bare minimum and buying insurance Government on the other hand cares about security for different reasons, they take it lot more seriously. They don't sacrifice security in the interest of sales. I would anyday prefer to work for some org where security actually matters not where it is inconvenience
- Ericson2314 5y ago
  That's all true, but we should also be willing to pay more in the public sector. Capping government salaries and then paying for consulting is an especially lousy form of privatization.
- 0xy 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_gov... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/us/politics/russia-cyber-hack-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/us/politics/russia-cyber-... Government doesn't care about the security of your personal information, hence why they treat their security engineers with contempt by offering them paltry wages and drowning them in red tape.
  - manquer 5y ago
    Government cares about security from foreign threat actors. The loss of data to esponiage is a critical threat. Most companies I know treat Security engineers similarly and pay not all that much higher. There is world of enterprise IT outside the silicon valley, the pay is not all the much higher. Despite all the recent threats and ransomware attacks security is not treated as it should be.

by 0xy 5y ago

mellosouls 5y ago

Not everybody is driven solely by money.

manquer 5y ago

Not every co moves at startup speeds. I have seen plenty of large companies move just as slow or slower. Problems of red tape are not limited to only government ,it is function of most large organizations Plenty of security engineers are constantly frustrated at the lack of security focus in corporate sector, investments are only made when it affects revenue . Even after all the ransomware companies some times do the bare minimum and buying insurance Government on the other hand cares about security for different reasons, they take it lot more seriously. They don't sacrifice security in the interest of sales. I would anyday prefer to work for some org where security actually matters not where it is inconvenience

Ericson2314 5y ago
That's all true, but we should also be willing to pay more in the public sector. Capping government salaries and then paying for consulting is an especially lousy form of privatization.
0xy 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_gov... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/us/politics/russia-cyber-hack-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/us/politics/russia-cyber-... Government doesn't care about the security of your personal information, hence why they treat their security engineers with contempt by offering them paltry wages and drowning them in red tape.
- manquer 5y ago
  Government cares about security from foreign threat actors. The loss of data to esponiage is a critical threat. Most companies I know treat Security engineers similarly and pay not all that much higher. There is world of enterprise IT outside the silicon valley, the pay is not all the much higher. Despite all the recent threats and ransomware attacks security is not treated as it should be.