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Lichtenstein, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Luxembourg. Can I have a cookie now?

blocked_again 5y ago
So the population of the countries you listed. San Marino - Around 33k Lichtenstein - Around 38k Monaco - 38k Andorra - Around 77k Luxembourg - 600k With population of 77k, Andorra won't even make it in the top 300 populated cities in India. I bet it's not even in top 500. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_India_by_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_India_by_pop... The population of least populated state in India is Around 600k. So Luxembourg would barely be a state in India. There are more than 70 cities with bigger population than Luxembourg in India Honestly it's not a great way to compare democaricies which are not even the size of big Indian cities to India. But yeah. You did come up with 5 democaries that seems like legit good when it comes to Human rights. I didn't investigate about the human right violations. But with population so low I won't be surprised if there are not many.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Textbook goalpost moving.
  - blocked_again 5y ago
    Can't deny. But to be fair I never said you can't come up with 5 countries either. Tiny nations which are even smaller than cities are always exceptions in all kind of stats. The fact that they had to come up with exceptions validates my point that India not the only democracy which does this. I am not justifying it obviously. The comment I replied back make it sounds like India is the only democracy which does this and is not a real democracy like the other democracies. Obviously it's stupid to put activists in jail for bogus claims. And there is no justification in doing it even though other countries are doing it. It's pretty obvious to anyone with a decent IQ.
    - smoldesu 5y ago
      I completely fail to see how this "Validates your point".
      - blocked_again 5y ago
        Point is pretty much all democrasies do this and it's not only India(Not justifying). The fact that the OP had to come up with nations with population less than large Universities and tech companies as counter examples validates it.
        zozbot234 5y ago
        Point is this is the definition of whataboutism. Just because other countries may have done this does not make it right.
        blocked_again 5y ago
        Never said that. The comment I replied back make it sounds like India is the only democracy which does this and is not a real democracy like the other democracies. Obviously it's stupid to put activists in jail for bogus claims. And there is no justification in doing it even though other countries are doing it. It's pretty obvious to anyone with a decent IQ.
        zozbot234 5y ago
        The comment actually says the opposite, that even "traditional democratic countries" have big problems. That is to say, it's always possible to improve and all improvement is valuable. Already India, while unquestionably flawed, is regarded as more democratic than some European countries.
        blocked_again 5y ago
        I agree. India has a lot to improve on. It's far from perfect. And it's very hard. 1.4 billion people. 20+ languages. So many religions. So many castes. But it still continue to work. With its flaws. But it's one of the thing that I am the most happy about this country. That democracy is still alive. Some more alive in some states than the other. We have come a long way since the British Colonization and the times before that. I think the future would be more brighter for democracy than last 50 years.

So the population of the countries you listed. San Marino - Around 33k Lichtenstein - Around 38k Monaco - 38k Andorra - Around 77k Luxembourg - 600k With population of 77k, Andorra won't even make it in the top 300 populated cities in India. I bet it's not even in top 500. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_India_by_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_India_by_pop... The population of least populated state in India is Around 600k. So Luxembourg would barely be a state in India. There are more than 70 cities with bigger population than Luxembourg in India Honestly it's not a great way to compare democaricies which are not even the size of big Indian cities to India. But yeah. You did come up with 5 democaries that seems like legit good when it comes to Human rights. I didn't investigate about the human right violations. But with population so low I won't be surprised if there are not many.

jacquesm 5y ago
Textbook goalpost moving.
- blocked_again 5y ago
  Can't deny. But to be fair I never said you can't come up with 5 countries either. Tiny nations which are even smaller than cities are always exceptions in all kind of stats. The fact that they had to come up with exceptions validates my point that India not the only democracy which does this. I am not justifying it obviously. The comment I replied back make it sounds like India is the only democracy which does this and is not a real democracy like the other democracies. Obviously it's stupid to put activists in jail for bogus claims. And there is no justification in doing it even though other countries are doing it. It's pretty obvious to anyone with a decent IQ.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    I completely fail to see how this "Validates your point".
    - blocked_again 5y ago
      Point is pretty much all democrasies do this and it's not only India(Not justifying). The fact that the OP had to come up with nations with population less than large Universities and tech companies as counter examples validates it.
      - zozbot234 5y ago
        Point is this is the definition of whataboutism. Just because other countries may have done this does not make it right.
        blocked_again 5y ago
        Never said that. The comment I replied back make it sounds like India is the only democracy which does this and is not a real democracy like the other democracies. Obviously it's stupid to put activists in jail for bogus claims. And there is no justification in doing it even though other countries are doing it. It's pretty obvious to anyone with a decent IQ.
        zozbot234 5y ago
        The comment actually says the opposite, that even "traditional democratic countries" have big problems. That is to say, it's always possible to improve and all improvement is valuable. Already India, while unquestionably flawed, is regarded as more democratic than some European countries.
        blocked_again 5y ago
        I agree. India has a lot to improve on. It's far from perfect. And it's very hard. 1.4 billion people. 20+ languages. So many religions. So many castes. But it still continue to work. With its flaws. But it's one of the thing that I am the most happy about this country. That democracy is still alive. Some more alive in some states than the other. We have come a long way since the British Colonization and the times before that. I think the future would be more brighter for democracy than last 50 years.