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It was done in poor taste indeed, but really blatant abuse of the National Security Act. This does appear to be more of a political move than anything. And ther

It was done in poor taste indeed, but really blatant abuse of the National Security Act. This does appear to be more of a political move than anything. And there in lies the problem when such laws with broad interpretations go into effect, a government in power can leverage it to their gains. All they need is a technicality on which to trap someone.

alex_smart 5y ago
Actually, there is a much more sinister systematic problem underneath this, which imo makes this sort of political abuse of law to curtail dissent seem like a minor issue in comparison. India seems to have completely given up on any attempt to genuinely implement common law principles that judicial systems worldwide are based on. Instead of conviction and eventual prison being the goal (along with the presumption of innocence until conviction), our system seems to rely mainly on pre-conviction detention as a deterrent for criminal activities. All relevant participants in the system (namely the police, the judiciary, the criminals and the citizens) have given in and accepted the fact that convictions are hard and extremely rare to come by. Instead, the process itself is the punishment. The goal of the police is to keep everyone in jail for as long as they can. Judges also regularly deny bail to the accused when they think that there is some preliminary evidence. And the citizens also join in this game by asking for ever stringend laws that make getting bails difficult for more and more cases. (I think most people in India don't even realize that "non-bailable" is just supposed to mean that bail is not automatic, but to be given on the consideration of a magistrate.)
- selimthegrim 5y ago
  Well, it seems like integration of J and K and Manipur finally worked itself out after all!
- throwawayobvs 5y ago
  The most sinister issue here is that if india wasnt a key ally against china, pakistan and others in the region it would be called for what it is. It is anything but a “democracy”, and while not at the same level as china treats uighurs or burma its rohinga, india still have the dalit and a rather weird caste system. Also i highly doubt india’s government is democratically elected, given the huge numbers of people left behind and rampant corruption. A shame for a country with such rich history.
  - alex_smart 5y ago
    Obviously troll comment from a throwaway account with negative karma. I don't know if i should even bother replying.

alex_smart 5y ago

Actually, there is a much more sinister systematic problem underneath this, which imo makes this sort of political abuse of law to curtail dissent seem like a minor issue in comparison. India seems to have completely given up on any attempt to genuinely implement common law principles that judicial systems worldwide are based on. Instead of conviction and eventual prison being the goal (along with the presumption of innocence until conviction), our system seems to rely mainly on pre-conviction detention as a deterrent for criminal activities. All relevant participants in the system (namely the police, the judiciary, the criminals and the citizens) have given in and accepted the fact that convictions are hard and extremely rare to come by. Instead, the process itself is the punishment. The goal of the police is to keep everyone in jail for as long as they can. Judges also regularly deny bail to the accused when they think that there is some preliminary evidence. And the citizens also join in this game by asking for ever stringend laws that make getting bails difficult for more and more cases. (I think most people in India don't even realize that "non-bailable" is just supposed to mean that bail is not automatic, but to be given on the consideration of a magistrate.)

selimthegrim 5y ago
Well, it seems like integration of J and K and Manipur finally worked itself out after all!
throwawayobvs 5y ago
The most sinister issue here is that if india wasnt a key ally against china, pakistan and others in the region it would be called for what it is. It is anything but a “democracy”, and while not at the same level as china treats uighurs or burma its rohinga, india still have the dalit and a rather weird caste system. Also i highly doubt india’s government is democratically elected, given the huge numbers of people left behind and rampant corruption. A shame for a country with such rich history.
- alex_smart 5y ago
  Obviously troll comment from a throwaway account with negative karma. I don't know if i should even bother replying.