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> Again, if you have no interest in the idea that some things are correct and others are incorrect, this will not appeal to you. But that is a postmodern relati

by bedobi 5y ago

> Again, if you have no interest in the idea that some things are correct and others are incorrect, this will not appeal to you. But that is a postmodern relativistic position and not one that everyone agrees with. Sorry, but you're just wrong. Everyone agrees grammar and correctness is important. AAVE has and enforces both. This has nothing to do with postmodern relativism. I bet you can't translate or understand the difference between these sentences We working We be working We stay working We steady working eg, most people think AAVE "we be working" means "we are working". But it doesn't, and if you use or understand it that way, you're not being correct or grammatical. Would it kill you to familiarize yourself with what's correct and incorrect in, and the grammar of, AAVE?

ceilingcorner 5y ago
First off, there is no established standard as to what is correct or incorrect in AAVE. It is like other dialects in America, such as Appalachian English or Louisianan English. It’s also not spoken by a large percentage of African Americans. Secondly, I really don’t know what you are trying to argue for. AAVE is an interesting dialect and something that makes America a richer place, just as all the other dialects do. That doesn’t make it equal to the common established standard, just like Appalachian English or Louisianan English are not “official.” Especially when these dialects have nowhere near the level of historical or cultural development and influence that standard American English does. What literature is there in Appalachian English? What movies? What historical documents? Do you understand why treating every dialect as equivalent to the standard one is an extremely unwieldy thing to do? Are we to treat every new dialect that appears as completely equal to the standard historical language?
- bedobi 5y ago
  > First off, there is no established standard as to what is correct or incorrect in AAVE Apologies, but it's now clear that you simply have no idea what you're talking about, I literally posted above textbook examples about what is the standard of what is correct and incorrect in AAVE, but you don't care to understand, so I'm gonna end this particular reply chain here.
  - ceilingcorner 5y ago
    If you actually read the Wikipedia article, you’ll see the words “continuum” and “frequently used” often. It’s similar to a creole. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_... And again, I really have absolutely no idea what you are trying to argue for.

by bedobi 5y ago

ceilingcorner 5y ago

First off, there is no established standard as to what is correct or incorrect in AAVE. It is like other dialects in America, such as Appalachian English or Louisianan English. It’s also not spoken by a large percentage of African Americans. Secondly, I really don’t know what you are trying to argue for. AAVE is an interesting dialect and something that makes America a richer place, just as all the other dialects do. That doesn’t make it equal to the common established standard, just like Appalachian English or Louisianan English are not “official.” Especially when these dialects have nowhere near the level of historical or cultural development and influence that standard American English does. What literature is there in Appalachian English? What movies? What historical documents? Do you understand why treating every dialect as equivalent to the standard one is an extremely unwieldy thing to do? Are we to treat every new dialect that appears as completely equal to the standard historical language?

bedobi 5y ago
> First off, there is no established standard as to what is correct or incorrect in AAVE Apologies, but it's now clear that you simply have no idea what you're talking about, I literally posted above textbook examples about what is the standard of what is correct and incorrect in AAVE, but you don't care to understand, so I'm gonna end this particular reply chain here.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  If you actually read the Wikipedia article, you’ll see the words “continuum” and “frequently used” often. It’s similar to a creole. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_... And again, I really have absolutely no idea what you are trying to argue for.