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I don't own a gun nor consider myself much of a "2A advocate", but I do think the complexity of the problem is under-appreciated. First off, we had decades of d
by themgt 5y ago
I don't own a gun nor consider myself much of a "2A advocate", but I do think the complexity of the problem is under-appreciated. First off, we had decades of declining gun violence while total guns in circulation were dramatically increasing [0].
Gun violence up-ticked somewhat around 2015 and then stabilized, and then starting in late May last year began a dramatic rise[1] that has not yet subsided, a rise as far as I know was not seen in any other developed country during the pandemic. Many people also seem to not understand that the vast majority of murders are committed with (usually illegal) handguns[1], so the common focus on "assault weapons" like the AR-15 seems illogical given how few murders they account for annually.
I would be very supportive of stronger laws/regulations against carrying guns in public and significant penalties for anyone violating those rules. If someone wants to legally carry in public they should clear a very high bar. The problem is that any serious attempt to get illegal guns off the streets is going to run into 4A and other constitutional challenges and political backlash (and not simply from gun rights advocates). The police in general have become incredibly controversial over the past year, much less heavy-handed preventative policing and gun violence task forces which have run into criticism and defunding over tactics and targets. Violent and especially repeat offenders in general also need to be kept off the street - even among violent criminals a small minority commit the vast amount of violent crime.
The reality is "gun control" advocates have the luxury of hand-waving away the incredibly difficult to intractable implementation questions, when on the ground we had more actual real-world "gun control" in 2019 than once the nationwide protests and anti-police sentiment took hold in 2020. Anyone who tried to point out back when this was gaining steam that the likely consequence would be increased violence was shouted down with ad hominems, and now that the violence has shown up statistically we're back to the hand-waving about "gun control". Is there any actual proposed gun control law you're endorsing and some evidence to back up why it would be likely to make a significant dent, and how many people would you predict the police will need to arrest to enforce the law?
The primary pragmatic step in gun control is taking violent / illegal-gun carrying criminals off the streets, and the decline in political appetite for actually doing so coincidentally coincided with the dramatic rise in violence we now see.
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- injb 5y ago> I would be very supportive of stronger laws/regulations against carrying guns in public and significant penalties for anyone violating those rules. If someone wants to legally carry in public they should clear a very high bar. Just curious, why do you think this? Is it your impression that people who carry guns after passing only a fairly low/medium legal bar are contributing to murder rates?