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Did you actually read the article? This individual received hundreds of vile messages and his contacts and family members were harassed. If you think this repr

by hluska 5y ago

Did you actually read the article? This individual received hundreds of vile messages and his contacts and family members were harassed. If you think this represents teenagers in their natural habitat, either that natural habitat is a jail or you’re not aware of how deeply fucked up this is. Frankly, the little fuckers should all serve time for this. If you wanna act like a gangster from the safety of mommy’s basement, maybe it’s time to meet some real gangsters.

legostormtroopr 5y ago
> This individual received hundreds of vile messages This individual claims they received hundreds of vile messages. We can't confirm that.
- meguminloli 5y ago
  >This individual claims they received hundreds of vile messages Right. Looks like he deleted a message from an individual asking him for proof. I kept the archive of that. https://archive.is/9j5zn https://archive.is/9j5zn
  - hluska 5y ago
    And more trolls are here continuing the gaslighting. I operate here under my real name. What is your real name? Where do you work? Why are you choosing to continue this harassment?
    - meguminloli 5y ago
      What's even your point? Why would I show my real name? Why is everyone blind at this? Someone asked him for proof and he simply deleted the comment. Is this how would you behave in that situation? If yes, you shouldn't be part of any FOSS movement.
    - blooalien 5y ago
      Real names are not an indicator of trustworthiness or maturity, especially online, where making your real-life personal data too publicly available is just asking for trouble from turds like these (among many other bad actors that make up entirely too much of the modern Internet). I do totally agree with you about the harassment and gaslighting though. Humanity as a whole has tolerated this sort of behavior far longer than it should have. Something's gotta be done about it. Mebbe we need to start prosecuting public death threats as a crime again?
- hluska 5y ago
  So you’re going to keep gaslighting and harassing this engineer over here in HN?? Wow, you’re a troll. Good for you…
  - rtz121 5y ago
    I think there is only one person here gaslighting, and it's not the one you think.
    - hluska 5y ago
      And in that case, you don’t know what gaslighting means. Good for you.
pjc50 5y ago
> If you think this represents teenagers in their natural habitat The internet? Yes? It's not _many_ teenagers, but there's always some who enjoy threatening others for laughs especially when there's no possible retribution. It's why online gaming with strangers always carries a risk of getting random abuse. It's the adults who run websites that encourage this culture who should know better.
- hluska 5y ago
  So, perhaps a minority of teenagers demonstrate extreme antisocial traits? I wish courts were advanced enough to start prosecuting their parents. This has to end and frankly, if it’s going to take silver bracelets and jail time, there are a lot worse uses for incarceration.
  - thatcat 5y ago
    These pleas to lock up teenagers and their parents over speech are antisocial. Good thing there is the first amendment to protect you from someone using the state to personally seek revenge for any offense you caused.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
    - hluska 5y ago
      How is criminal harassment protected speech? Oh wait, it’s not and this is a garbage argument.
      - thatcat 5y ago
        It has to be a credible threat
      - thatcat 5y ago
        Mature response, I see you live in Canada so maybe you don't understand free speech, but harassment has to be a pattern reprated by an individual against another individual or deprive someone of access to some resource and a threat needs to be credible, but thanks for weighing in on how you think another countries laws should be interpreted. https://www.thefire.org/resources/free-speech-freshman-orientation/limits-to-free-speech/ https://www.thefire.org/resources/free-speech-freshman-orien...
thatcat 5y ago
Yes the state should inflict real violence on them on your behalf over words they typed. /s
- hluska 5y ago
  Yeah, the state should. Harassment is a crime. You can’t hide behind a screen and commit crimes with impunity.
  - thatcat 5y ago
    No one is harassing you. We're already in a precarious enough situation with all the extreme content auto bans. Maybe we could all filter our own content or create some passive barriers, what you've suggested is an over reaction that would inevitability cause more suffering than it prevented - deescalation is what is needed not escalation.
    - hluska 5y ago
      No shit. I've never claimed to be harassed. However, the engineer involved in this thread was. You and others have come onto this site and continued the harassment via telecommunications devices. But please tell me more about how to deescalate conflict, specifically how continuing to gaslight the engineer on another site is a form of de-escalation.
      - thatcat 5y ago
        >You and others have come onto this site and continued the harassment via telecommunications devices. I use this forum everyday because it is a place for civilized communication with strangers, let's keep it that way, eh? This suggestion that I'm gaslighting or cyberstalking you is why the laws that define those terms are incompatible with a Free and Open society. You're just mad and want the government to make you feel better by getting some revenge for you and don't care if that effects other peoples ability to speak in the future about something actually important.
rtz121 5y ago
> This individual received hundreds of vile messages and his contacts and family members were harassed. Yet there is no proof any of this happened. If le evil 4chan hackers truly did any of this, wouldn't you expect his personal info with telephone number to be posted in the 4chan threads?

by hluska 5y ago

legostormtroopr 5y ago

> This individual received hundreds of vile messages This individual claims they received hundreds of vile messages. We can't confirm that.

meguminloli 5y ago
>This individual claims they received hundreds of vile messages Right. Looks like he deleted a message from an individual asking him for proof. I kept the archive of that. https://archive.is/9j5zn https://archive.is/9j5zn
- hluska 5y ago
  And more trolls are here continuing the gaslighting. I operate here under my real name. What is your real name? Where do you work? Why are you choosing to continue this harassment?
  - meguminloli 5y ago
    What's even your point? Why would I show my real name? Why is everyone blind at this? Someone asked him for proof and he simply deleted the comment. Is this how would you behave in that situation? If yes, you shouldn't be part of any FOSS movement.
  - blooalien 5y ago
    Real names are not an indicator of trustworthiness or maturity, especially online, where making your real-life personal data too publicly available is just asking for trouble from turds like these (among many other bad actors that make up entirely too much of the modern Internet). I do totally agree with you about the harassment and gaslighting though. Humanity as a whole has tolerated this sort of behavior far longer than it should have. Something's gotta be done about it. Mebbe we need to start prosecuting public death threats as a crime again?
hluska 5y ago
So you’re going to keep gaslighting and harassing this engineer over here in HN?? Wow, you’re a troll. Good for you…
- rtz121 5y ago
  I think there is only one person here gaslighting, and it's not the one you think.
  - hluska 5y ago
    And in that case, you don’t know what gaslighting means. Good for you.

pjc50 5y ago

> If you think this represents teenagers in their natural habitat The internet? Yes? It's not _many_ teenagers, but there's always some who enjoy threatening others for laughs especially when there's no possible retribution. It's why online gaming with strangers always carries a risk of getting random abuse. It's the adults who run websites that encourage this culture who should know better.

hluska 5y ago
So, perhaps a minority of teenagers demonstrate extreme antisocial traits? I wish courts were advanced enough to start prosecuting their parents. This has to end and frankly, if it’s going to take silver bracelets and jail time, there are a lot worse uses for incarceration.
- thatcat 5y ago
  These pleas to lock up teenagers and their parents over speech are antisocial. Good thing there is the first amendment to protect you from someone using the state to personally seek revenge for any offense you caused.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - hluska 5y ago
    How is criminal harassment protected speech? Oh wait, it’s not and this is a garbage argument.
    - thatcat 5y ago
      It has to be a credible threat
    - thatcat 5y ago
      Mature response, I see you live in Canada so maybe you don't understand free speech, but harassment has to be a pattern reprated by an individual against another individual or deprive someone of access to some resource and a threat needs to be credible, but thanks for weighing in on how you think another countries laws should be interpreted. https://www.thefire.org/resources/free-speech-freshman-orientation/limits-to-free-speech/ https://www.thefire.org/resources/free-speech-freshman-orien...

thatcat 5y ago

Yes the state should inflict real violence on them on your behalf over words they typed. /s

hluska 5y ago
Yeah, the state should. Harassment is a crime. You can’t hide behind a screen and commit crimes with impunity.
- thatcat 5y ago
  No one is harassing you. We're already in a precarious enough situation with all the extreme content auto bans. Maybe we could all filter our own content or create some passive barriers, what you've suggested is an over reaction that would inevitability cause more suffering than it prevented - deescalation is what is needed not escalation.
  - hluska 5y ago
    No shit. I've never claimed to be harassed. However, the engineer involved in this thread was. You and others have come onto this site and continued the harassment via telecommunications devices. But please tell me more about how to deescalate conflict, specifically how continuing to gaslight the engineer on another site is a form of de-escalation.
    - thatcat 5y ago
      >You and others have come onto this site and continued the harassment via telecommunications devices. I use this forum everyday because it is a place for civilized communication with strangers, let's keep it that way, eh? This suggestion that I'm gaslighting or cyberstalking you is why the laws that define those terms are incompatible with a Free and Open society. You're just mad and want the government to make you feel better by getting some revenge for you and don't care if that effects other peoples ability to speak in the future about something actually important.

rtz121 5y ago

> This individual received hundreds of vile messages and his contacts and family members were harassed. Yet there is no proof any of this happened. If le evil 4chan hackers truly did any of this, wouldn't you expect his personal info with telephone number to be posted in the 4chan threads?