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95 of the shootings (roughly 1/4 of them) were in Chicago [0]. The Chicago MSA is just under 3% of the US population, and about 25% of the shootings. [0] - ht

by MR4D 5y ago

95 of the shootings (roughly 1/4 of them) were in Chicago [0]. The Chicago MSA is just under 3% of the US population, and about 25% of the shootings. [0] - https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-independence-day-weekend-shootings-violence-20210705-krc6q7g7o5grzit3qpoavxlr3e-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-inde...

me_me_me 5y ago
That is a jaw drop statistic. This is just insane.
dmos62 5y ago
I enjoy the nickname Chiraq (as in Ch-Iraq). I've had French acquintances perplexed by this term, because there's been a French president called Jacques Chirac (pronounced the same way).
- deviledeggs 5y ago
  Chiraq isn't an insult, that's what people living there call it.
  - dmos62 5y ago
    Chiraq is calling Chicago a warzone. I never thought it was an insult.
  - timelesscop 5y ago
    No we don't, 99.9% of Chicagoans aren't drill rappers.
    - deviledeggs 5y ago
      Hahaha. I lived there and we called it that all the time. More common among friends living on south side tho
      - cpher 5y ago
        I live on the southside and I don't hear anyone calling it Chiraq.
- HKH2 5y ago
  Not quite the same. The French 'i' is an 'ee' sound.
DoreenMichele 5y ago
Wow. I wonder if the high rates of lead poisoning in Chicago have anything to do with that stat. Based on those figures, more than 10 percent of young children tested in the city had troublesome lead levels that year — about four times the national average. https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-lead-poisoning-chicago-met-20150501-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-lead-poison...
deviledeggs 5y ago
I'm convinced Chicago is unfixable. The south side has been so poor for so long it's basically a third world country. The best solution is a planned dismantlement of the irredeemable parts of the city. And relocate those people somewhere they stand a chance of finding a job. When rust belt manufacturing died Chicago had no jobs for a million people. And in 60 years the situation hasn't changed much
hk1337 5y ago
And the most strictest gun laws
- ryandvm 5y ago
  Strict local gun laws in the United States is a like having a "no peeing" section in a pool.
  - hk1337 5y ago
    "Welcome to our OOL!"
  - RickJWagner 5y ago
    I don't think that's true. I've lived in rural states all my life. Almost all my family and friends have guns. (Hunting is a big hobby.) I have never known anyone that shot a person. I've never had a relative or friend get shot (except one cousin who unfortunately purposefully shot himself.) In other words, the number of guns don't cause crime. Why take away cars from everybody because some people drive drunk? No? Why take away guns from people who use them responsibly?
swiley 5y ago
Guns are illegal in Chicago too.
- JohnTHaller 5y ago
  Guns are legal everywhere around Chicago including all neighboring states which have much weaker gun laws than Illinois.
  - swiley 5y ago
    You don't think people who are willing to break the law this way won't just manufacture them?
    - JohnTHaller 5y ago
      Are you comparing driving to another state to buy a gun with manufacturing a gun?
      - swiley 5y ago
        I'm comparing driving to another state to driving to an illicit gun smith.
        drewbug01 5y ago
        I'm not sure precisely what you're trying to say here - but my intuition is that you're saying "people will illicitly manufacture guns in Illinois and people will patronize them rather than drive over to another state to purchase guns." If that is what you're saying (and please, clarify if it's not!) - it's worth knowing that both Wisconsin and Indiana are a 90 minute drive from Chicago city limits, so any illicit manufacturing has to compete with the ease of a relatively short drive to purchase in another state. I think sometimes people forget just how close Chicago is to other states.
        swiley 5y ago
ortusdux 5y ago
Chicago uses ShotSpotter, a system that uses microphones to triangulate gun shots. They claim to be able to differentiate between fireworks and gun fire, but I wonder if the sheer volume of fireworks on the 4th makes it the ideal time for a shooting spree. https://www.shotspotter.com/news/how-does-shotspotter-differentiate-between-gunshots-and-fireworks/ https://www.shotspotter.com/news/how-does-shotspotter-differ...

by MR4D 5y ago

me_me_me 5y ago

That is a jaw drop statistic. This is just insane.

dmos62 5y ago

I enjoy the nickname Chiraq (as in Ch-Iraq). I've had French acquintances perplexed by this term, because there's been a French president called Jacques Chirac (pronounced the same way).

deviledeggs 5y ago
Chiraq isn't an insult, that's what people living there call it.
- dmos62 5y ago
  Chiraq is calling Chicago a warzone. I never thought it was an insult.
- timelesscop 5y ago
  No we don't, 99.9% of Chicagoans aren't drill rappers.
  - deviledeggs 5y ago
    Hahaha. I lived there and we called it that all the time. More common among friends living on south side tho
    - cpher 5y ago
      I live on the southside and I don't hear anyone calling it Chiraq.
HKH2 5y ago
Not quite the same. The French 'i' is an 'ee' sound.

DoreenMichele 5y ago

Wow. I wonder if the high rates of lead poisoning in Chicago have anything to do with that stat. Based on those figures, more than 10 percent of young children tested in the city had troublesome lead levels that year — about four times the national average. https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-lead-poisoning-chicago-met-20150501-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-lead-poison...

deviledeggs 5y ago

I'm convinced Chicago is unfixable. The south side has been so poor for so long it's basically a third world country. The best solution is a planned dismantlement of the irredeemable parts of the city. And relocate those people somewhere they stand a chance of finding a job. When rust belt manufacturing died Chicago had no jobs for a million people. And in 60 years the situation hasn't changed much

hk1337 5y ago

And the most strictest gun laws

ryandvm 5y ago
Strict local gun laws in the United States is a like having a "no peeing" section in a pool.
- hk1337 5y ago
  "Welcome to our OOL!"
- RickJWagner 5y ago
  I don't think that's true. I've lived in rural states all my life. Almost all my family and friends have guns. (Hunting is a big hobby.) I have never known anyone that shot a person. I've never had a relative or friend get shot (except one cousin who unfortunately purposefully shot himself.) In other words, the number of guns don't cause crime. Why take away cars from everybody because some people drive drunk? No? Why take away guns from people who use them responsibly?

swiley 5y ago

Guns are illegal in Chicago too.

JohnTHaller 5y ago
Guns are legal everywhere around Chicago including all neighboring states which have much weaker gun laws than Illinois.
- swiley 5y ago
  You don't think people who are willing to break the law this way won't just manufacture them?
  - JohnTHaller 5y ago
    Are you comparing driving to another state to buy a gun with manufacturing a gun?
    - swiley 5y ago
      I'm comparing driving to another state to driving to an illicit gun smith.
      - drewbug01 5y ago
        I'm not sure precisely what you're trying to say here - but my intuition is that you're saying "people will illicitly manufacture guns in Illinois and people will patronize them rather than drive over to another state to purchase guns." If that is what you're saying (and please, clarify if it's not!) - it's worth knowing that both Wisconsin and Indiana are a 90 minute drive from Chicago city limits, so any illicit manufacturing has to compete with the ease of a relatively short drive to purchase in another state. I think sometimes people forget just how close Chicago is to other states.
        swiley 5y ago

ortusdux 5y ago

Chicago uses ShotSpotter, a system that uses microphones to triangulate gun shots. They claim to be able to differentiate between fireworks and gun fire, but I wonder if the sheer volume of fireworks on the 4th makes it the ideal time for a shooting spree. https://www.shotspotter.com/news/how-does-shotspotter-differentiate-between-gunshots-and-fireworks/ https://www.shotspotter.com/news/how-does-shotspotter-differ...