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The vast majority are in specific places like the Southside of Chicago, a city with strict gun control. It turns out that America is a really big place and bro

The vast majority are in specific places like the Southside of Chicago, a city with strict gun control. It turns out that America is a really big place and broad criticisms from abroad are almost always wrong and misleading.

alisonkisk 5y ago
and Chicago violence is down year over year.
- leereeves 5y ago
  > and Chicago violence is down year over year. It is? "Chicago saw 1,916 shootings through the first six months of the year, according to city records, an increase of almost 12 percent compared with 2020 and an increase of 55 percent over 2019." https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/2/22560417/4-killed-28-wounded-shootings-thursday-july-1-crime-homicide-chicago https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/2/22560417/4-kille...
- goldenkey 5y ago
  Don't know where you get your stats from but that's not true based on a quick Google search. https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/news/2020/3/16/21181886/chicago-violence-rise-43-percent-more-murders https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/a... For a real perspective on the violent hoods, CharlieBo313 visits them all and does interviews. Guns are pointed at him in many of them. Here's his latest Chicago video: https://youtu.be/UOeEykKtobs https://youtu.be/UOeEykKtobs
meepmorp 5y ago
> a city with strict gun control. ... in the middle of larger area with very lax gun control.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  Yet other cities have tons of guns, no gun control, and don’t have the same levels of crime. It’s almost like the issue is social and economic in nature...
- exo762 5y ago
  This is how you guarantee that only criminals have guns. What's the point of gun control in this circumstances?
ec109685 5y ago
Chicago gun control laws were ruled unconstitutional, so there is no longer strict gun control there: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/oct/03/sarah-huckabee-sanders/chicago-toughest-gun-control-claim-shot-full-holes/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/oct/03/sarah-huck...
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  The crime problem precedes this change by years and years.
- injb 5y ago
  That's not true, and it's not even what the article claims. It says it's not the strictest in the country, which is true. From the article: > Seven states receive higher grades than Illinois in the latest Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence ratings. So it's the 8th strictest out of 50, by their standards.

alisonkisk 5y ago

and Chicago violence is down year over year.

leereeves 5y ago
> and Chicago violence is down year over year. It is? "Chicago saw 1,916 shootings through the first six months of the year, according to city records, an increase of almost 12 percent compared with 2020 and an increase of 55 percent over 2019." https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/2/22560417/4-killed-28-wounded-shootings-thursday-july-1-crime-homicide-chicago https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/2/22560417/4-kille...
goldenkey 5y ago
Don't know where you get your stats from but that's not true based on a quick Google search. https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/news/2020/3/16/21181886/chicago-violence-rise-43-percent-more-murders https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/a... For a real perspective on the violent hoods, CharlieBo313 visits them all and does interviews. Guns are pointed at him in many of them. Here's his latest Chicago video: https://youtu.be/UOeEykKtobs https://youtu.be/UOeEykKtobs

meepmorp 5y ago

> a city with strict gun control. ... in the middle of larger area with very lax gun control.

ceilingcorner 5y ago
Yet other cities have tons of guns, no gun control, and don’t have the same levels of crime. It’s almost like the issue is social and economic in nature...
exo762 5y ago
This is how you guarantee that only criminals have guns. What's the point of gun control in this circumstances?

ec109685 5y ago

Chicago gun control laws were ruled unconstitutional, so there is no longer strict gun control there: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/oct/03/sarah-huckabee-sanders/chicago-toughest-gun-control-claim-shot-full-holes/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/oct/03/sarah-huck...

ceilingcorner 5y ago
The crime problem precedes this change by years and years.
injb 5y ago
That's not true, and it's not even what the article claims. It says it's not the strictest in the country, which is true. From the article: > Seven states receive higher grades than Illinois in the latest Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence ratings. So it's the 8th strictest out of 50, by their standards.