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We have no point of comparison. Is this more than usual?

bart__ 5y ago
Maybe it is normal? (in the U.S.). Wouldn't that be more insane?
nextstep 5y ago
This is about normal for the US, but quite high for anywhere else in the developed world. This long weekend had more gun deaths in the US than most developed countries have in a year. The only countries that have US-levels of gun violence are unstable Latin American nations and war-torn countries in Northern Africa: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/11/09/666209430/deaths-from-gun-violence-how-the-u-s-compares-with-the-rest-of-the-world?t=1625566490983 https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/11/09/6662094...
dmos62 5y ago
According to this wiki article[0], 2018 (last year for which data is available) had around 14k non-suicide gun deaths. Looking at other figures suggests that this is close to the yearly average. So that's just under 40 non-suicide gun deaths per day in US. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...
T-A 5y ago
Second link in the article: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ Click "Past Years" for historical data going back to 2014: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls
onion2k 5y ago
Here's a point for comparison - the number of people who were killed by guns in the UK in the year prior to March 2019 (so pre-COVID) was 33.
- makomk 5y ago
  The UK regulates and bans guns in ways that would be unacceptable even to US gun control advocates. (Actually, maybe especially amongst US gun control advocates. All the big, left-leaning pro-gun-control celebrities would lose their armed guards that they absolutely insist the restrictions shouldn't apply to - that's not a legitimate reason for owning or carrying a gun in the UK. US gun control activists think that regulating hand guns more strictly than rifles is absurd and wrong, whereas the UK completely banned handguns. Also, the UK issues gun licenses to people as young as 14, and this is a fundamental to our approach to guns: the idea is to treat guns as a tool that they can be allowed to use if they show they're responsible enough, rather than something glamorous and forbidden. All of this actually aligns surprisingly well with what pro-gun Americans think gun control supporters get wrong, from what I can tell.)

Maybe it is normal? (in the U.S.). Wouldn't that be more insane?

This is about normal for the US, but quite high for anywhere else in the developed world. This long weekend had more gun deaths in the US than most developed countries have in a year. The only countries that have US-levels of gun violence are unstable Latin American nations and war-torn countries in Northern Africa: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/11/09/666209430/deaths-from-gun-violence-how-the-u-s-compares-with-the-rest-of-the-world?t=1625566490983 https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/11/09/6662094...

dmos62 5y ago

According to this wiki article[0], 2018 (last year for which data is available) had around 14k non-suicide gun deaths. Looking at other figures suggests that this is close to the yearly average. So that's just under 40 non-suicide gun deaths per day in US. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...

T-A 5y ago

Second link in the article: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ Click "Past Years" for historical data going back to 2014: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

onion2k 5y ago

Here's a point for comparison - the number of people who were killed by guns in the UK in the year prior to March 2019 (so pre-COVID) was 33.

makomk 5y ago
The UK regulates and bans guns in ways that would be unacceptable even to US gun control advocates. (Actually, maybe especially amongst US gun control advocates. All the big, left-leaning pro-gun-control celebrities would lose their armed guards that they absolutely insist the restrictions shouldn't apply to - that's not a legitimate reason for owning or carrying a gun in the UK. US gun control activists think that regulating hand guns more strictly than rifles is absurd and wrong, whereas the UK completely banned handguns. Also, the UK issues gun licenses to people as young as 14, and this is a fundamental to our approach to guns: the idea is to treat guns as a tool that they can be allowed to use if they show they're responsible enough, rather than something glamorous and forbidden. All of this actually aligns surprisingly well with what pro-gun Americans think gun control supporters get wrong, from what I can tell.)