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>> The move comes as tension escalates between the Indian government and Twitter. Google, Facebook, and several other firms have partially or fully complied wit

by zerop 5y ago

>> The move comes as tension escalates between the Indian government and Twitter. Google, Facebook, and several other firms have partially or fully complied with the IT rules, which among other things, requires any significant social media firm (any firm with over 5 million users in India) to appoint a chief compliant officer, a resident grievance officer, and a so-called nodal contact person to address on-ground concerns. FB, Google have appointed the chief compliant officer, but why Twitter doesn’t want to do it?

joseph5 5y ago
FB and Google are already overflowing with enough Modi worshiping Brahmins. Anyway who wants the job? Other than the ignorant or crazy no one will apply.
baybal2 5y ago
> chief compliant officer A very appropriately worded title
xfer 5y ago
Why should they comply with traceability law? Signal/whatsapp are also not compliant. Very weird seeing people supporting these draconian regulations.
- kumarvvr 5y ago
  Can you explain what the traceability law is?
  - xfer 5y ago
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/why-indian-courts-should-reject-traceability-obligations https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/why-indian-courts-shou...
    - kumarvvr 5y ago
      The internet is an oversized megaphone. A couple of 1000 dedicated workers can spread rumours, panic and propaganda. When you have a country of 1.3 billion people, a large portion of whom also have smartphones, who, unfortunately are also uneducated and gullible, you have the perfect environment to cause trouble. Apps like WA and Telegram, enable this megaphone to reach every nook and corner of the country. If tomorrow, there is a coordinated rumour mongering going on, leading to riots and deaths, dont you think those who started the rumour be caught?
      - xfer 5y ago
        The answer should be to educate the people. Judging the progress in the ML research, it is a lost battle trying to "protect" people from propaganda/misinformation. And i don't trust the indian authorities to do it right seeing how opaque the whole system is.
        ridiculous_leke 5y ago
        Goodluck trying to educate 500 million. The government can force people to learn stuff(like China) but that doesn't work due to fear of losing elections.
        kumarvvr 5y ago
        The most wealthiest and developed country in the world, the USA, could not educate its own citizens enough. And you think a country of half a billion gullible folk need to be educated. Do you know how much time that will take, and if at all it will be successful? US politics and the Trump machine have shown that no matter how much you educate people, a small group of people, often available to the highest bidder, will be able to influence millions of people.
      - mlnj 5y ago
        > If tomorrow, there is a coordinated rumour mongering going on, leading to riots and deaths, dont you think those who started the rumour be caught? There is a constant stream of misinformation spread via government sources in the country. The Indian government over the last 7 years have steadily weaponized social media to dehumanize opponents and carve away rights from a very large section of the dissidents. This call for war against misinformation that you point to seems to be always targeted towards the government's opposition most times. Can you clarify why twitter should be on the line for this and not most other entities including news channels & politicians who directly preach to '1.3 billion people, a large portion of whom also have smartphones, who, unfortunately are also uneducated and gullible, you have the perfect environment to cause trouble.'
BhavdeepSethi 5y ago
One of the things that doesn't get mentioned is that the compliant officer is legally responsible, if the content isn't taken down in a stipulated duration of time. Be jailed, if the company fails to act on any instance. That's a hard job to sell.
rishav_sharan 5y ago
Because Twitter likely doesn't wants to have the Indian Govt dictate what should or shouldn't be shown on Twitter. Facebook and Google, on the other hand have decided that the business they get in India is worth the censoring/govt backdooring. Also, it is rather hard to appoint a Chief Compliance Officer considering that this person can get arrested easily. The last interim hire that twitter did quit in a month due to continual gov't harassment; https://indianexpress.com/article/india/twitter-interim-grievance-officer-for-india-quits-amid-row-over-new-it-rules-7378424/ https://indianexpress.com/article/india/twitter-interim-grie...

by zerop 5y ago

joseph5 5y ago

FB and Google are already overflowing with enough Modi worshiping Brahmins. Anyway who wants the job? Other than the ignorant or crazy no one will apply.

baybal2 5y ago

> chief compliant officer A very appropriately worded title

xfer 5y ago

Why should they comply with traceability law? Signal/whatsapp are also not compliant. Very weird seeing people supporting these draconian regulations.

kumarvvr 5y ago
Can you explain what the traceability law is?
- xfer 5y ago
  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/why-indian-courts-should-reject-traceability-obligations https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/why-indian-courts-shou...
  - kumarvvr 5y ago
    The internet is an oversized megaphone. A couple of 1000 dedicated workers can spread rumours, panic and propaganda. When you have a country of 1.3 billion people, a large portion of whom also have smartphones, who, unfortunately are also uneducated and gullible, you have the perfect environment to cause trouble. Apps like WA and Telegram, enable this megaphone to reach every nook and corner of the country. If tomorrow, there is a coordinated rumour mongering going on, leading to riots and deaths, dont you think those who started the rumour be caught?
    - xfer 5y ago
      The answer should be to educate the people. Judging the progress in the ML research, it is a lost battle trying to "protect" people from propaganda/misinformation. And i don't trust the indian authorities to do it right seeing how opaque the whole system is.
      - ridiculous_leke 5y ago
        Goodluck trying to educate 500 million. The government can force people to learn stuff(like China) but that doesn't work due to fear of losing elections.
      - kumarvvr 5y ago
        The most wealthiest and developed country in the world, the USA, could not educate its own citizens enough. And you think a country of half a billion gullible folk need to be educated. Do you know how much time that will take, and if at all it will be successful? US politics and the Trump machine have shown that no matter how much you educate people, a small group of people, often available to the highest bidder, will be able to influence millions of people.
    - mlnj 5y ago
      > If tomorrow, there is a coordinated rumour mongering going on, leading to riots and deaths, dont you think those who started the rumour be caught? There is a constant stream of misinformation spread via government sources in the country. The Indian government over the last 7 years have steadily weaponized social media to dehumanize opponents and carve away rights from a very large section of the dissidents. This call for war against misinformation that you point to seems to be always targeted towards the government's opposition most times. Can you clarify why twitter should be on the line for this and not most other entities including news channels & politicians who directly preach to '1.3 billion people, a large portion of whom also have smartphones, who, unfortunately are also uneducated and gullible, you have the perfect environment to cause trouble.'

BhavdeepSethi 5y ago

One of the things that doesn't get mentioned is that the compliant officer is legally responsible, if the content isn't taken down in a stipulated duration of time. Be jailed, if the company fails to act on any instance. That's a hard job to sell.

rishav_sharan 5y ago

Because Twitter likely doesn't wants to have the Indian Govt dictate what should or shouldn't be shown on Twitter. Facebook and Google, on the other hand have decided that the business they get in India is worth the censoring/govt backdooring. Also, it is rather hard to appoint a Chief Compliance Officer considering that this person can get arrested easily. The last interim hire that twitter did quit in a month due to continual gov't harassment; https://indianexpress.com/article/india/twitter-interim-grievance-officer-for-india-quits-amid-row-over-new-it-rules-7378424/ https://indianexpress.com/article/india/twitter-interim-grie...