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All I want is a phone that is as capable, reliable and fast as the iPhone and which has a port that I can connect to a USB-C Dock with keyboard, mouse and displ

All I want is a phone that is as capable, reliable and fast as the iPhone and which has a port that I can connect to a USB-C Dock with keyboard, mouse and display to get a fully fledged high-speed open Desktop Linux or macOS just as if it was a regular capable notebook PC. I tried out many of the alternatives (DeX, Pinephone etc.) and they all don’t meet the requirements and have some form of compromise involved.

nivenkos 5y ago
How close is the Pinephone though? The Raspberry Pi is "usable" as a desktop, so I can't imagine the PinePhone being too different?
- smhost 5y ago
  the pinephone is the best option in terms of its platform design, but it's just so underpowered
  - fsflover 5y ago
    Librem 5 is significantly more powerful and also capable to provide convergence. The greatest thing is that you don't just get mobile apps on a big screen but actual desktop apps.
javchz 5y ago
Motorola had something like that, the Xoom phone, sadly failed. Samsung probably it's the closest thing, but it's still android with a PC shoehorn UI / UX.
- atatatat 5y ago
  None of these options have made the form factor a failure if they were not paired with adequate hardware and software.
Nursie 5y ago
> a port that I can connect to a USB-C Dock with keyboard, mouse and display to get a fully fledged high-speed open Desktop... My Huawei P20 pro would do this for android. It had a sort of desktop mode, you could attach keyboard and mouse via bluetooth (probably USB as well), the phone screen would become a touchpad. Not an open platform so much as a skin on android, but still pretty neat.
- ThatPlayer 5y ago
  Samsung almost had it when they supported Linux on DeX, which ran Ubuntu. Unfortunately, they've removed that feature now.
nicbou 5y ago
You could always carry a stick PC of some kind.
- fsflover 5y ago
  This is not the same as having just one device which can do everything.
  - Graffur 5y ago
    The funny thing about that is nowadays a lot of people use both devices at the same time.
    - tyingq 5y ago
      Thanks MFA.
      - Graffur 5y ago
        Also a few other things I can think of: * making calls when also using your computer * browsing while watching/gaming fullscreen * passive gaming while working * bringing the phone with you and leaving the laptop/pc for a short period of time * browsing reddit on the laptop/pc and also on your phone at the same time

nivenkos 5y ago

How close is the Pinephone though? The Raspberry Pi is "usable" as a desktop, so I can't imagine the PinePhone being too different?

smhost 5y ago
the pinephone is the best option in terms of its platform design, but it's just so underpowered
- fsflover 5y ago
  Librem 5 is significantly more powerful and also capable to provide convergence. The greatest thing is that you don't just get mobile apps on a big screen but actual desktop apps.

javchz 5y ago

Motorola had something like that, the Xoom phone, sadly failed. Samsung probably it's the closest thing, but it's still android with a PC shoehorn UI / UX.

atatatat 5y ago
None of these options have made the form factor a failure if they were not paired with adequate hardware and software.

Nursie 5y ago

> a port that I can connect to a USB-C Dock with keyboard, mouse and display to get a fully fledged high-speed open Desktop... My Huawei P20 pro would do this for android. It had a sort of desktop mode, you could attach keyboard and mouse via bluetooth (probably USB as well), the phone screen would become a touchpad. Not an open platform so much as a skin on android, but still pretty neat.

ThatPlayer 5y ago
Samsung almost had it when they supported Linux on DeX, which ran Ubuntu. Unfortunately, they've removed that feature now.

nicbou 5y ago

You could always carry a stick PC of some kind.

fsflover 5y ago
This is not the same as having just one device which can do everything.
- Graffur 5y ago
  The funny thing about that is nowadays a lot of people use both devices at the same time.
  - tyingq 5y ago
    Thanks MFA.
    - Graffur 5y ago
      Also a few other things I can think of: * making calls when also using your computer * browsing while watching/gaming fullscreen * passive gaming while working * bringing the phone with you and leaving the laptop/pc for a short period of time * browsing reddit on the laptop/pc and also on your phone at the same time