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> Implying that one can't be grateful in the US because of the existence of insurance premiums feels like yet another example of American exceptionalism because
by jakecopp 5y ago
> Implying that one can't be grateful in the US because of the existence of insurance premiums feels like yet another example of American exceptionalism because many other countries have figured it out.
I agree with the sentiment of being grateful for access to good healthcare, however being grateful to the US for the privilege to pay for their private healthcare (when less fortunate US citizens are dying because they can't afford treatment [1]) is a strange sentiment from the perspective of a non-US citizen.
The U.S. is almost entirely alone among developed nations in lacking universal healthcare [2], and on a per capita basis, spends more than double the average of all OECD countries [3].
> Second, it's not that difficult for me to picture a scenario in which someone is grateful for the access to healthcare and health insurance that a typical Googler in the US has.
> Particularly if you've ever traveled to poorer countries (or just been exposed to more disadvantaged environments) where a lot less is taken for granted, it's often easy to find things in your life for which you are grateful.
I agree wholeheartedly with both of these points.
[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/07/americans-healthcare-medical-costs https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/07/americans-he...
[2]: https://www.dpeaflcio.org/factsheets/the-us-health-care-system-an-international-perspective https://www.dpeaflcio.org/factsheets/the-us-health-care-syst...
[3]: https://www.dpeaflcio.org/factsheets/the-us-health-care-system-an-international-perspective https://www.dpeaflcio.org/factsheets/the-us-health-care-syst...
- vinay427 5y ago> The U.S. is almost entirely alone among developed nations in lacking universal healthcare Right, I obviously have a huge problem with that situation. I was referring to this part (inserted below) in your original comment, which draws an implication between universal healthcare and paying insurance bills. The US is far from the only developed nation to have private insurance providers with insurance premiums. For instance, here in Switzerland which is admittedly something of an outlier, the average adult pays over $200 per month in premiums. I believe many other central European countries are around $100/mo or perhaps a bit less. > Being grateful to your country for giving you the opportunity to work to pay insurance bills to have a child, because there's no universal healthcare? (In fact, most of the systems that seem to score highest in efficiency according to reports I've seen rank these public-private systems in countries like the Netherlands or Germany higher than nationalized systems, but I still don't actually prefer it having lived in both the US and another developed nation with a relatively functioning system of private insurers.)