> the reason a lot of the sort of African American vernacular you're addressing is discouraged is because there is no inherently african/black language What? O

> the reason a lot of the sort of African American vernacular you're addressing is discouraged is because there is no inherently african/black language What? Of course there is no "inherently african/black language". Africa itself is a giant continent home to the most linguistic (and ethnic, and genetic) diversity on the planet, so that would be a tough claim to back up. And no, out of the laundry list of reasons AAVE is stigmatized, that "there is no inherently african/black language" is not one of them. The rest of your reply, despite best efforts, I literally don't even understand what any of it means. I don't mean to be uncharitable but it's kind of ironic given the topic being English Language... To the degree you're trying to say something about AAVE being bad grammar, or being perceived to be bad grammar, that's not even half of it. Even those who speak perfectly grammatical Standard American English, but with an African American accent only, are still stigmatized. So it's not enough for speakers to speak grammatical Standard American English, they have to completely change they way they speak in order not to be stigmatized, which is sad and wrong.